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- **Revenue Growth**: Q4 2025 revenue up 21% YoY, driven by BaaS deposits ($1.3B) and SBA originations ($580M).
- **Credit Challenges**: SBA loans originated 2024-2025 face higher defaults; franchise loans shrinking.
- **2026 Outlook**: 15-17% loan growth, 2.75-2.80% net interest margin, $2.35-2.45 EPS.
- **Deposit Repricing**: $850M CDs maturing at 4.15%, re-priced at 3.65%.
- **M&A Interest**: Multiple inquiries, no active deals; trading at discount to tangible book.

**【CEO Summary Section】**
- Q4 2025 revenue grew 21% YoY, driven by BaaS deposits ($1.3B) and SBA originations ($580M). 
- Completed $850M single-tenant loan sale to Blackstone, reducing low-yield assets.
- Focused on credit quality: SBA originations cut to $500M in 2026, franchise loans ceased.
- AI investments in origination and underwriting to improve efficiency.
- 2026 outlook: 15-17% loan growth, 2.75-2.80% net interest margin, $2.35-2.45 EPS.

**【CFO Financial Commentary】**
- Q4 2025 net income: $5.3M ($0.60 EPS), adjusted $5.6M ($0.64 EPS).
- Adjusted revenue $42.1M (+21% YoY), NII $30.3M (+29% YoY), margin 2.22%.
- Deposit costs down 3.68%, loan yields up 6.85%.
- 2026 guidance: NII $155-160M, noninterest income $33-35M, expenses $111-112M.
- Provision $50-53M ($17-19M Q1, $14-16M Q2, moderating H2).

**【Q&A Highlights】**
- **Credit Risks**: SBA loans originated 2024-2025 face higher defaults; franchise loans shrinking.
- **Deposit Repricing**: $850M CDs maturing at 4.15%, re-priced at 3.65%.
- **BaaS Growth**: Payments volume $165B (+225% YoY), deposits $2B off-balance sheet.
- **M&A Activity**: Multiple inquiries, no active deals; trading at discount to tangible book.
- **2026 Margin**: 2.75-2.80% by Q4, 10-15bps quarterly expansion.

First Internet Bancorp (INBK) Q4 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

- **Revenue Growth**: Adjusted total revenues up 30% QoQ to $43.5 million, driven by SBA loan sales and cost reductions.
- **Strategic Actions**: Sold $837 million STL loans to improve margin and capital; moved $700 million fintech deposits off-balance sheet.
- **Credit Improvement**: Delinquencies down 50% QoQ to 35bps, with franchise finance delinquencies reduced 80%.
- **2026 Outlook**: FTE net interest income $150 million, noninterest income $41.5-44.5 million, 2.70-2.80% net interest margin.
- **Share Buybacks**: Authorized $25 million repurchase; may act if stock remains in low teens.

**【CEO Summary Section】**
- Delivered eighth consecutive quarter of net interest income growth, with adjusted total revenues up 30% QoQ to $43.5 million, driven by SBA loan sale gains and lower deposit costs.
- Sold $837 million of STL loans, reducing interest rate risk and capital ratios, and improving net interest margin.
- Recognized $34.8 million provision for credit losses, including $21 million net charge-offs, to address small business lending and franchise finance portfolios.
- Total delinquencies improved to 35 basis points (from 62% QoQ), aligning with peer levels.
- Commercial loan originations grew $115 million (3.2%), with strong pipelines in CRE, STL, and C&I.

**【CFO Financial Commentary】**
- Reported net loss of $41.6 million ($0.0476 per share), excluding $37.8 million loan sale loss, with adjusted net loss of $12.5 million.
- Net interest income rose 8% QoQ to $30.4 million (FTE $31.5 million), driven by 11bp loan yield increase to 7.5%.
- Net interest margin expanded 8bps to 2.12% (FTE 2.04%), with 2026 outlook of 2.70-2.80%.
- Cost of deposits declined 5bps to 3.90%, with $700 million fintech deposits moved off-balance sheet.
- 2026 guidance: FTE net interest income $150 million, noninterest income $41.5-44.5 million, expenses $106-109 million.

**【Q&A Highlights】**
- **Credit Quality**: Franchise finance delinquencies down 80% QoQ, with 4 delinquent loans remaining. SBA delinquencies at 35bps, lowest in a year. ACL increased 30% to $59.9 million (1.65% of loans).
- **Government Shutdown**: $104 million SBA loans held for sale; sales may resume post-shutdown. Origination pipeline secured with $94 million pre-approval.
- **Balance Sheet Flexibility**: $1.3 billion (27%) of deposits indexed to Fed funds, enabling NII expansion with rate cuts. FTE net interest income Q4 2025: $32.75-33.5 million.
- **Strategic Moves**: Tightened SBA credit standards, AI-driven portfolio analytics, and $700 million off-balance sheet fintech deposits.
- **Share Buybacks**: Authorized to repurchase $25 million; may act if stock remains in low teens post-blackout period.

First Internet Bancorp (INBK) Q3 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

- **Credit Challenges Offset by Margin Growth**: Q2 EPS miss ($0.02) due to provisions, but NIM expanded to 2.04% with loan yields >7.5%.
- **Portfolio Improvements**: SBA delinquencies down 48% QoQ, franchise finance deferrals eliminated, and repurchase activity peaking in March 2025.
- **2025 Outlook**: NII growth to $35.5M in Q4, noninterest income rebounding to $13.3M/Q, and cautious provision guidance of $10M-$11M/Q.
- **2026 Ambition**: 5%-7% loan growth, NII of $158M-$163M, and EPS range of $5.20-$6.30.
- **Strategic Shifts**: Holding SBA loans for longer to capture higher yields (7%+ vs. 8%+ sales premium), and fintech deposits driving cost efficiency.

**【Management Opening Remarks】**
- Q2 2025 EPS of $0.02 due to elevated credit provisions and nonperforming loans in franchise finance and SBA portfolios.
- Net interest margin (NIM) on a tax-effective basis rose to 2.04%, driven by higher loan yields and declining deposit costs.
- Management prioritizes credit quality, with delinquencies improving across most portfolios.

**【CEO & COO Credit Update】**
- **Franchise Finance Portfolio**: 5% of loans on nonaccrual, with 1/3 covered by specific reserves. Delinquencies slowed, and workout strategies improved recovery rates. No deferrals and only 9 loans past due as of Q2.
- **SBA Portfolio**: Nonaccrual loans down 48% QoQ, past dues reduced by 60%, and repurchase activity peaking in March 2025. Improved servicing and underwriting adjustments led to portfolio stabilization.
- **Overall Credit Quality**: Nonperforming loans (NPLs) at 1% of total loans, aligning with industry norms. Delinquencies improved to 62 basis points (down 15 bps YoY).

**【CFO Financial Commentary】**
- **Net Interest Income (NII)**: $29.1M (tax-effective) vs. $26.2M in Q1, +11%. NIM expanded to 2.04% (vs. 1.91% Q1), driven by 8 bps higher loan yields and 9 bps lower deposit costs.
- **2025 Outlook**: 
  - Loan growth of 2% QoQ in H2, targeting NIM of 2.20%-2.35% in Q3 and 2.30%-2.35% in Q4.
  - Noninterest income to rebound to $13.3M/Q in H2, driven by SBA loan sales ($52M sold in July).
  - Expenses to remain stable at $27M/Q, with provision for loan losses of $10M-$11M/Q.
- **2026 Guidance**: 
  - Loan growth of 5%-7%, NII of $158M-$163M, and EPS of $5.20-$6.30.
  - SBA noninterest income of $51M-$54M, with cautious provision estimates of $37M-$40M.

**【Q&A Highlights】**
- **Provision Guidance**: Elevated levels ($10M-$11M/Q in 2025, $37M-$40M in 2026) reflect cautious approach to credit recovery.
- **SBA Policy Changes**: June 2025 SOP updates delayed Q2 sales but July activity returned to pre-change levels ($3.7M gain on sales YTD).
- **Deposit Strategy**: $1.8B (33% of deposits) indexed to Fed funds, with CD repricing reducing costs by 9 bps QoQ.
- **Share Buyback**: CEO signals willingness to repurchase if price/book ratio falls below 1.0, but cautious at current $23 price vs. $44 book value.


First Internet Bancorp (INBK) Q2 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

- **Revenue Growth**: 22% YoY total operating revenue driven by net interest income and loan growth, despite $9.7 million net charge-offs.
- **NIM Expansion**: 16 basis points QoQ improvement to 1.91% FTE, with 40%+ full-year NII growth expected.
- **SBA Challenges**: One-time $5-6 million Q2 non-interest income decline due to SBA process changes, offset by higher loan interest income.
- **Deposit Cost Trend**: 4.73% average cost on maturing CDs to drive 4.05-4.1% new CD rates, reducing deposit costs.
- **Credit Quality**: Non-performing loans at 80 basis points, with franchise finance issues showing borrower-specific stress.
- **Capital Strength**: 6.55% tangible common equity ratio and $2.1 billion liquidity supporting growth.

**【Management Opening Remarks】**
- Ben Brodkowitz introduced the management team and outlined the call structure, emphasizing forward-looking statements and non-GAAP measures.

**【CEO Commentary】**
- **Nicole Lorch**: Highlighted mixed results with strong revenue growth (22% YoY) driven by net interest income and loan growth, offset by elevated credit issues in small business and franchise finance portfolios. Notable achievements include:
  - 7% QoQ increase in net interest income and 16 basis points improvement in net interest margin.
  - $12 million pre-tax, pre-provision income, up 10.8% QoQ and 50% YoY.
  - $9.7 million net charge-offs due to problem loans, with non-performing loans at 80 basis points of total loans.
  - SBA originations ranked 8th largest in the U.S., with 2236% YoY growth in loan sale volume.
- **David Becker**: Reiterated confidence in revenue momentum, citing ongoing investments in small business lending and embedded finance partnerships.

**【CFO Commentary】**
- **Ken Lovik**: Detailed financial performance, including:
  - Deposit growth of $111 million (2% QoQ) driven by FinTech partnerships, with $881 million in FinTech deposits.
  - Net interest income of $25.1 million, up 6.6% QoQ, with a 16 basis point NIM expansion.
  - Non-interest income decline of 35% QoQ due to SBA loan sale process changes, expecting a one-time $5-6 million Q2 impact.
  - Expense management (1.7% QoQ decline) and 40%+ full-year NII growth outlook.
  - Capital strength with a 6.55% tangible common equity ratio.

**【Q&A Highlights】**
- **SBA Loan Sales**: Management expects a one-time Q2 decline in non-interest income (to $5-6 million) due to SBA process changes, with recovery in H2.
- **Deposit Costs**: Anticipated 4.73% average cost on $1.1 billion maturing CDs, enabling 4.05-4.1% new CD rates.
- **Share Buybacks**: Contingent on stock price below 50% of book value, with potential action if current levels persist.
- **Franchise Finance**: $13.8 million criticized loans with 44% reserves, showing borrower-specific stress rather than industry trends.
- **Expense Growth**: 10-15% YoY guidance, driven by loan growth and operational investments.
- **Interest Rate Impact**: A 25 basis point Fed cut could add $3.6 million annualized NII, ramping up over 12 months.

First Internet Bancorp (INBK)-24 Apr 25-2025 Q1 Earnings call transcript

- **Record Growth in 2024**: Net income up 17%, SBA originations +45%, and 30% total revenue growth. 
- **2025 Ambitious Targets**: $600M SBA originations, 10-12% loan growth, and 2.20-2.30% NIM by Q4. 
- **Strong Liquidity & Capital**: $2.2B liquidity, 6.62% tangible common equity ratio, and 9.3% CET1 capital. 
- **SBA Portfolio Resilience**: 2024 charge-offs offset by 45% gain-on-sale revenue growth; 2025 provisioning conservative but manageable. 
- **Deposit Cost Optimization**: 500bps CD repricing gap in H1 2025 to drive NIM expansion. 


**【CEO Overview】**
- **2024 Financial Highlights**: Net income of $87.4 million (+17% YoY), SBA loan originations of $540 million (+45% YoY), and total revenue growth of 30% YoY driven by net interest income and gain-on-sale revenue. 
- **2025 Outlook**: Targeting $600 million in SBA originations, 10-12% loan growth, and 2.20-2.30% net interest margin (NIM) by Q4 2025. 
- **Balance Sheet Strength**: $2.2 billion liquidity, loans-to-deposits ratio of 84.5%, and tangible book value per share up 6% YoY. 

**【CFO Financial Breakdown】**
- **Q4 2024 Results**: 
  - Net income: $7.3 million (+5% QoQ), EPS: $0.83 (+4% QoQ). 
  - Net interest income: $24.7 million (+17% YoY), NIM: 1.75% (FTE basis, +5bps QoQ). 
  - Non-interest income: $16 million (+32.5% QoQ), driven by $8.6 million in loan sales and $4.7 million in FHLB prepayment gains. 
- **2025 Guidance**: 
  - Net interest income growth: 30-35%, NIM expansion to 2.20-2.30%. 
  - Non-interest income: 9-12% growth, excluding one-time gains. 
  - Provision for credit losses: 15-20% higher than 2024 levels due to SBA portfolio growth. 

**【Q&A Key Takeaways】**
- **SBA Portfolio Health**: 2024 charge-offs totaled $9.4 million (mostly SBA), with 30% of non-performing loans covered by reserves. 2025 provisioning assumes 15-20% increase vs. 2024. 
- **Fintech Deposits**: Q4 2024 fintech deposits grew 27% QoQ to $643 million, with $16 billion in payment volume (+38% QoQ). 
- **Rate Environment**: Assuming stable rates, CD repricing ($765 million maturing in H1 2025) and FHLB paydowns will drive NIM expansion. 
- **Risk Management**: 68bps non-performing loans (vs. 50bps peers), 10bps consumer loan delinquency rate, and 1.07% ACL coverage ratio. 


Actual									0.62	0.4	0.86	1.12	1.05	1.11	1.27	1.3	1.22	1.06	0.9	0.68	0.53	0.44	0.39	0.48	0.59	0.72	0.8	0.41	0.11	0.02	-1.43	0.64
Forecast									0.554	0.334	0.4325	0.848	0.926	1.192	1.132	1.18	1.042	1.124	1.13	0.7	0.406	0.382	0.358	0.31	0.536	0.709	0.822	0.916	0.758	0.294	0.634	0.568
Surprise	0.00%	0.00%	0.00%	0.00%	0.00%	0.00%	0.00%	0.00%	+11.91%	+19.76%	+98.84%	+32.08%	+13.39%	-6.88%	+12.19%	+10.17%	+17.08%	-5.69%	-20.35%	-2.86%	+30.54%	+15.18%	+8.94%	+54.84%	+10.07%	+1.55%	-2.68%	-55.24%	-85.49%	-93.20%	-325.55%	+12.68%

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Forecast	--	--	--	--	--	--	--	--	21.64M	21.87M	23.07M	28.57M	30.05M	32.71M	31.21M	31.56M	32.14M	33.49M	32.87M	28.18M	26.18M	24.45M	25.32M	26.01M	29.76M	31.38M	34.75M	36.53M	37.74M	35.99M	45.48M	43.50M
Surprise	0.00%	0.00%	0.00%	0.00%	0.00%	0.00%	0.00%	0.00%	-2.02%	-11.28%	+24.39%	+10.34%	-3.83%	-14.27%	-5.36%	-1.15%	+1.42%	-10.44%	-13.88%	-2.50%	-4.66%	-1.78%	-2.13%	+4.62%	-2.28%	+3.11%	-2.75%	-4.85%	-5.88%	-6.79%	-4.28%	-3.20%

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