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Date of Call: None provided
revenues increasing 21% quarter-over-quarter to $64.1 million, supported by 10.2% organic revenue growth and M&A revenues.45% to $17 million, expanding margins by 430 basis points to 26.5%.The growth was driven by execution on accretive M&A, leveraging scale and financial discipline, and the normalization of personal lines.
MGA Program and Commission Income:
19.2% growth in written premium, contributing to a 56% increase in commission income.27%, resulting in a higher net commission margin of 52%.The significant commission margin expansion is attributed to the launch of a new Florida program with favorable revenue streams and lower corresponding commission expenses.
Carrier Availability and Market Softening:
The market softening allows for more client onboarding, with reduced average premiums being offset by increased exposure growth.
M&A and Recruiting Activity:
8 new retail locations, 1 corporate location, and 370 independent agents in the MGA platform during Q3 2025.The company anticipates exceeding the 2025 M&A pace in 2026, focusing on accretive acquisitions and strategic expansion opportunities.
Profitability and Expense Management:
55% to $13 million, with an adjusted net income margin of 20%.13% and salaries and benefits up 19.2% year-over-year.
Overall Tone: Positive
Contradiction Point 1
M&A Contributions and Growth Expectations
It involves expectations regarding the contributions of M&A to the company's growth and financial performance, which are crucial for investors to assess the company's strategic direction and future prospects.
Regarding the 2026 pipeline, what are your current expectations for M&A activity - are you planning increased capital allocation, more deals, or a different pace compared to this year? - Tommy McJoint (KBW)
2025Q3: We should exceed 2025. Depending on how we view M&A throughout the calendar year, we should exceed 2026. I mean, exceed 2025. - Gordy Bunch(CEO)
Can you share a long-term outlook on organic growth as rates moderate? - Pablo Singzon (JPMorgan)
2025Q2: We currently anticipate that we will exceed 2025. I think right now, that's where we stand. - Richard Bunch(CEO)
Contradiction Point 2
Organic Growth Outlook
It involves differing expectations and explanations for achieving organic growth, which is a critical metric for assessing the company's underlying business performance.
What are the key drivers for achieving double-digit organic growth in 2026, and what are the key risks or uncertainties to monitor if circumstances change? - Paul Newsom (Piper Sandler)
2025Q3: The combination of our same store sales growth velocity, sales velocity, new program initiatives, existing program expansion allows for more exposures to be brought in through those channels that are creating additional commission income above the base year. It is really not one area. It is a multitude of all the different parts of our platform executing against their growth initiatives. - Gordy Bunch(CEO)
What confirms that retention has stabilized here, and why is this level a sustainable benchmark for the future? - Pablo Singzon (JPMorgan)
2025Q1: We expect 2025 to be an investment year in both agents and programs, and we'll use the same store sales growth velocity to help us exceed our 2025 guidance. - Richard Bunch(CEO)
Contradiction Point 3
Market Conditions and Growth Strategy
It involves assessments of market conditions and the company's strategic response, which are critical for investors to understand the company's growth trajectory and competitive positioning.
Could you break down the improvement in the product environment geographically, clarify if it applies to both new and renewal business, and explain how this improvement will impact P&L in the near term? - Charlie Letterer (BMO)
2025Q3: The hard market for personal lines started moving soft in really the beginning of the second quarter of 2025. That changes carrier posturing. Think about the hard market in 2023, 2024, and the early parts of 2025. Carriers are taking significant rate. Carriers are restricting capacity. - Gordy Bunch(CEO)
What's the long-term outlook for organic growth with moderating rates? - Pablo Singzon (JPMorgan)
2025Q2: The market is softening, with increased capacity, especially in auto and home, leading to more renewal and new business opportunities. The shift from renewal retention to new business growth is impacting organic growth. - Richard Bunch(CEO)
Contradiction Point 4
Impact of Newly Onboarded Agents
It pertains to the expected timeframe and impact of newly onboarded agents on the company's growth, which affects strategic planning and investor expectations.
You've added many new agents in the past year. You mentioned previously most won't have an impact immediately. When will the waterfall of impact from these new agents take effect? - Paul Newsom (Piper Sandler)
2025Q3: Their impact is baked into our forecasting. I think, as we talked about it over time, the immediate year they come in, there’s not much of an immediate contribution. As they grow their agency over a multi-year process, they start becoming more meaningfully contributive. - Gordy Bunch(CEO)
Did you onboard many new branches in the second half of last year? How has the new business performed compared to expectations? And has there been any churn in that business? - Dean Criscitiello (KBW)
2024Q4: So I think we've mentioned on previous calls, it takes several years for newly onboarded scratch agencies to really hit any meaningful production. So they're not really driving any of the results in 2024. They'll have a modest contribution in '25 and more so in '26. - Richard Bunch(CEO)
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