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Date of Call: November 25, 2025
operating revenues of over $1.2 billion for Q4, up 31% from the previous year and 17% from the prior quarter. - The growth was driven by strategic acquisitions, with the acquisition of R.J. O'Brien contributing $89.5 million to the revenue increase. 76% year-on-year, contributing $89.4 million, while OTC derivatives increased 27%.This revenue diversification was driven by the integration of R.J. O'Brien's operations and increased transaction volumes across various product offerings.
Fixed Compensation and Expense Impact:
24% year-on-year and 14% quarter-on-quarter, reflecting the integration of R.J. O'Brien and Benchmark.The increase was primarily due to the inclusion of acquisition-related costs and higher professional fees.
Strong Institutional Segment Performance:
67% and 73% growth, respectively, driven by R.J. O'Brien's contribution.
Overall Tone: Positive
Contradiction Point 1
Retail Business Revenue Capture Rate
It involves differing expectations for the long-term average revenue capture rate for the Retail business, affecting financial forecasting and investor expectations.
Are there other factors beyond volatility in the retail segment to consider moving forward, given the significant increase in the rate per million? - Daniel Fannon (Jefferies LLC)
2025Q4: The retail business has a long-term average revenue capture in the $80 million range, with recent peaks but overall consistent performance. - Sean O'Connor(CEO)
What is the normalized revenue capture rate for the Retail business? - Unidentified Participant
2023Q1: Long-term average revenue capture is about $90-$95, but we have seen exceptional conditions with higher capture rates in the past. - Sean O'Connor(CEO)
Contradiction Point 2
Interest Rate Impact on Market Earnings Sensitivity
It pertains to the symmetry of market condition and earnings sensitivity related to interest rate changes, which is crucial for financial forecasting and investor understanding.
Are market conditions and earnings sensitivity similar when interest rates rise or fall? - Unidentified Participant
2025Q4: The dynamics are symmetrical regarding interest rate changes. - Sean O'Connor(CEO)
Are market conditions and earnings sensitivity symmetrical in response to rising and falling interest rates? - Unidentified Participant
2023Q1: The dynamic is symmetrical regarding interest rate changes. Assets might reprice slightly quicker on the way down, but the effect on earnings is expected to be the same. - Sean O'Connor(CEO)
Contradiction Point 3
Precious Metals Trading Performance
It highlights differing perspectives on the impact of tariffs on precious metals trading and the expected recovery based on the exemption from tariffs.
Did the weakness in precious metals trading improve after gold was exempted from tariffs in September, and how did the trend evolve in October and November? - Jeffrey Schmitt(William Blair & Company L.L.C.)
2025Q4: The precious metals business was affected by the dislocation in CME metals prices due to tariffs, causing additional costs. Although it improved from Q3, it is still not back to its normal profitability. The exemption of tariffs has now allowed for flexibility, potentially turning the situation positive for StoneX as they can take advantage of market dislocations. - Sean O'Connor(Executive Vice-Chairman)
What caused the weakness in the commercial segment's trading volumes? Were you surprised by the decline in hedging activity? - Jeffrey Paul Schmitt(William Blair & Company L.L.C.)
2025Q3: The precious metals business was also hit by the dislocation in CME metals prices due to tariffs, which caused additional costs. It was weaker than we had anticipated. - Sean O'Connor(Executive Vice-Chairman)
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