SBA Communications' Q3 2025 Earnings Call: Contradictions on Carrier Leasing, Verizon MLA, DISH, Sprint Churn, and Growth Visibility

Guidance:

• Modestly increased full-year outlook for new leasing activity and escalations.
• Increased full-year site development revenue outlook by $20 million.
• Declared quarterly dividend of $1.11 per share payable Dec 11, 2025; expect dividend to grow over time.
• Officially reduced target leverage range to 6–7x net debt/adjusted EBITDA to pursue investment‑grade debt.
• Continue share repurchases (YTD $325M; $1.3B authorization remaining).
• Will provide detailed 2026 outlook on next earnings call.

Business Commentary:

• Positive Financial and Operational Results:
• SBA Communications reported strong financial results with industry-leading AFFO per share and positive operating performance, including robust leasing demand from both U.S. and international markets.

• The growth was driven by increasing leasing activity, particularly from new colocations, which are critical for network densification and expansion in the U.S. and globally.

• Millicom Acquisition and Strategic Changes:

• The final closing of all remaining Central American assets under the purchase agreement with Millicom was completed, adding over 46,000 tower sites to SBA's portfolio, resulting in a 40% increase since 2020.

• This strategic move aligns SBA with leading wireless operators and contributes to its ongoing portfolio review aimed at being a leading tower company in each market.

• Verizon Long-Term Agreement:

• SBA entered into a new long-term agreement with Verizon, which includes minimum commitments for new leasing activity and operational efficiencies for both companies.

• The agreement, building on the strong partnership between SBA and Verizon, provides stability and long-term growth opportunities by ensuring predictable contributions over an extended period.

• Share Repurchase and Financial Policies:

• SBA spent $325 million on share repurchases in 2025, including $153 million in Q3, and reduced its target leverage range to six to seven times net debt to adjusted EBITDA.
• The company aims to create shareholder value through strategic share repurchases while maintaining flexibility for future capital allocation, including share buybacks and M&A opportunities.

Sentiment Analysis:

Overall Tone: Positive

• Management: "pleased to share another quarter of positive financial and operational results"; services revenue "increasing revenue by 81% in Q3 vs prior year"; announced a new long-term MLA with Verizon and $325M of buybacks YTD; updated policy to target 6–7x leverage to pursue investment-grade debt.

Q&A:

• Question from Batya Levy (UBS): Can you provide color on how the Verizon MLA could impact new leasing revenue next year (amendments, colocations, capture of incremental spectrum) and is DISH current on payments or seeking to exit contracts early?
  Response: Verizon MLA includes colocations and amendments with a minimum colocation commitment over the next ~10 years (linear, activity‑driven upside); DISH is current on rents and management expects them to honor agreements.

• Question from Rick Prentiss (Unknown): Are DISH payments current (timing), did the Verizon deal address high‑cost sites or escalators and any update on T‑Mobile USM churn or potential acceleration?
  Response: DISH payments are current (paid at beginning of month, through November); Verizon deal focuses on future growth and didn’t change existing financial terms; T‑Mobile USM exposure is modest (~$20M annual) with expected terminations/overlap churn over the next several years.

• Question from Nick Del Dello (Unknown): Clarify 'more linear' Verizon commitments—are they relatively linear over 10 years and could BEAD/fixed wireless move the needle for new leasing?
  Response: Verizon commit includes a minimum expected each year but activity can accelerate timing; BEAD/fixed wireless is a positive tailwind for expansion but its monetization/impact is uncertain and customer‑dependent.

• Question from Eric Loop Chow (Unknown): Given current run‑rate of domestic leasing and DISH likely being zero next year, how comfortable are you with current levels and are big three leaning more to colos vs amendments?
  Response: Too early to provide 2026 outlook; carriers are active and the Verizon MLA increases confidence in future leasing; DISH’s contribution to new leases this year was negligible (~$2M) and expected to be zero next year.

• Question from Dennis Wetherburn (Unknown): Could hybrid satellite‑to‑terrestrial (e.g., Starlink) deployments be a bigger opportunity for SBA and what should we expect for international churn going forward?
  Response: Satellite/hybrid opportunities are very early and speculative; international churn is elevated (notably Brazil/Oi and regional consolidation) but management expects a significant step‑down over the next couple of years as consolidation effects abate.

• Question from Michael Rollins (Unknown): When did Verizon negotiations begin and are carriers actively discussing expanding FWA into rural areas or is that anticipation?
  Response: Verizon discussions occurred much of the year; fixed wireless expansion into additional/rural markets is being observed anecdotally and is expected to continue but specifics depend on carrier plans.

• Question from Brendan Lynch (Unknown): How does the Verizon minimum commitment compare to historical Verizon leasing and any further portfolio pruning/divestiture plans or expected cash from portfolio work?
  Response: Verizon minimum commitment meets or exceeds standalone expectations; portfolio efforts are strategic to improve focus (not driven to generate large immediate cash proceeds), with Canada sale being opportunistic; no major divestiture program announced.

• Question from David Barden (Unknown): How does attaining investment‑grade change refinancing costs/financial modeling and will direct‑to‑device satellites reduce terrestrial builds in rural areas?
  Response: Investment‑grade access should modestly lower cost of debt (order of ~50–75 bps in some comparisons) and lengthen tenors, offering refinancing benefits; satellites will likely replace only truly uneconomic rural builds and can actually reveal high‑demand spots that prompt terrestrial deployments.

• Question from Jonathan Atkins (Unknown): Given comments from Vivo and América Móvil, what are implications for SBA in LatAm and philosophically would SBA consider selling U.S. tuck‑ins given private market multiples?
  Response: LatAm economics favor more infrastructure sharing (management supports shared ground‑rent efficiencies) and SBA is working with carriers to optimize; SBA is not pursuing divestitures as a strategy but would consider asset sales only if valuation arbitrage were compelling.

• Question from Brendan Lynch (Unknown): For the SEC‑considered auction in upper C‑band (3.9–4.2 GHz), can carriers deploy that spectrum via software upgrades on existing equipment?
  Response: Unlikely—upper C‑band deployments will generally require incremental antennas/radios (e.g., massive MIMO), not just software-only upgrades.

Contradiction Point 1

Carrier Activity and Leasing Dynamics

It involves differing perspectives on carrier activity and the impact on leasing dynamics, which are critical for understanding SBA's revenue and growth prospects.

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2025Q3: DISH's contributions to new leasings were minor this year, with a negligible impact on next year's run rate. We expect activity levels similar to today with the big three carriers. - Brendan Cavanagh(CEO)

Why hasn't revenue reflected increases in business activity? - Richard Choe (JPMorgan)

2025Q2: The trend is toward more new leases than amendments, delaying revenue recognition. However, we expect increased contributions from new leases in the second half of the year and next year to meet targets. - Brendan Cavanagh(CEO)

Contradiction Point 2

Verizon's MLA and Linear Growth

It involves differing statements regarding the impact of Verizon's MLA on leasing growth expectations, which are crucial for understanding SBA's financial outlook.

Can you clarify the Verizon MLA terms and whether DISH is excused from future payments? - Batya Levy (UBS)

2025Q3: Verizon's new agreement includes a minimum commitment for future growth, providing linear, predictable contributions over an extended period. - Brendan Cavanagh(CEO)

Has fixed wireless densification expanded beyond one lead customer? - James Schneider (Goldman Sachs)

2025Q2: We expect all carriers to be more active in fixed wireless. So we'll be back-end loaded on our leasing growth. - Brendan Cavanagh(CEO)

Contradiction Point 3

DISH's Future with SBA

It involves clarification of DISH's status as a customer and its expected contributions to SBA's leasing activity, which could impact growth projections.

Can you provide more details on the Verizon MLA and whether DISH is excused from future payments? - Batya Levy(UBS)

2025Q3: DISH is current on their rents, and we expect them to honor agreements. Conversations continue, but they are expected to adhere to their agreements. - Brendan Cavanagh(CEO)

How have conversations with DISH Network and cable companies about spectrum leasing been progressing? - Walter Piecyk(LightShed)

2025Q1: Limited conversations with DISH about spectrum leasing. No significant inbound opportunities from cable companies so far. - Brendan Cavanagh(CEO)

Contradiction Point 4

Sprint Churn Timing and Impact

It involves the timing and impact of Sprint churn, which affects revenue and operational expectations.

Are there potential high-cost site discussions related to Verizon or T-Mobile consolidation? - Rick Prentiss (Raymond James)

2025Q3: Most of this year's Sprint churn is largely from leases that have already expired or are about to. - Brendan Cavanagh(CEO)

Are you accelerating Sprint churn into this year, or allowing it to run off naturally? - Richard Choe (JPMorgan)

2024Q4: Most of this year's Sprint churn is largely from leases that have already expired or are about to. The timing to try and accelerate it is limited, and it's unlikely to occur. - Brendan Cavanagh(CEO)

Contradiction Point 5

Leasing Growth Visibility

It involves the level of visibility into future leasing growth, which is crucial for predicting financial performance and investor expectations.

What are your expectations for domestic leasing activity over the next year, considering DISH's exit? - Eric Loop Chow

2025Q3: Leasing is expected to end at a higher level than Q1, but specifics aren't provided to avoid affecting the market. - Brendan Cavanagh(CEO)

What is your expected U.S. leasing run rate at year-end, and can you provide metrics or products? - Jonathan Atkin(RBC Capital Markets)

2025Q1: Leasing is expected to end at a higher level than Q1, but specifics aren't provided to avoid affecting the market. - Brendan Cavanagh(CEO)