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Date of Call: Jan 14, 2026
Revenue and Profitability Growth:
net sales of $22.7 million for Q4, an increase of 23% year-over-year, and $80.6 million for the full fiscal year 2025, an increase of 24% compared to fiscal 2024.37% in Q4, exceeding the target of 30%, and adjusted EBITDA was 11.5% of net sales, above the goal of 10%.Diversification of Markets and Customers:
50% of sales, with the remaining half coming from transportation, aerospace, defense, industrial, and other OEM markets.Operational Excellence and Cost Management:
$13.7 million, down from $14.7 million the previous year, reflecting operational excellence.Enhanced Financial Position and Capital Allocation:
$4.6 million compared to last year, with a total of $5.1 million in cash and cash equivalents as of October 31, 2025.$250,000 in interest savings for the next year.
Overall Tone: Positive
Contradiction Point 1
Gross Margin Drivers and Future Expectations
Conflicting statements on the primary drivers of margin expansion and future margin sustainability.
How should we think about the fiscal 2026 growth trajectory and the breakdown of Q4 gross margin expansion between mix and operating leverage/pricing? - Matthew (on behalf of Josh Nichols, B. Riley)
2025Q4: Q4 gross margin expansion to 37% was driven by a combination of product/solution mix and higher sales volume, which significantly improves profitability by absorbing fixed costs. - Rob Dawson(CEO)
How much of the 34% gross margin improvement is driven by DAC systems and small cells versus mix? - Matthew Maus (B. Riley Securities, Inc.)
2025Q3: The improvement is driven by a mix of higher-value products... Additionally, operating leverage from increased sales volume helps spread fixed costs, contributing to profitability. - Robert Dawson(CEO)
Contradiction Point 2
Revenue Diversification
Inconsistent data presented regarding the company's current revenue mix across markets.
What is the revenue distribution across transportation, aerospace, stadiums, data centers, and telecom markets? - Howard Root (Private Investor)
2025Q4: Revenue diversification has shifted from ~70% telecom/telecom in prior years to about half from telecom/wireless, with the other half from transportation, aerospace, defense, industrial OEMs, and public safety. - Rob Dawson(CEO)
How are the strong bookings split between traditional wireless business and newer markets like aerospace, transportation, and data centers? - Matthew Maus (B. Riley Securities, Inc.)
2025Q3: Bookings are coming from a diverse set of customers and markets, not just one area. The company's core business remains steady, while growth in newer, higher-value product lines is broad-based across multiple customers... - Robert Dawson(CEO)
Contradiction Point 3
Backlog Trends and Seasonality
Backlog drop attributed to normal seasonality, yet a year-ago reference implies non-seasonal factors.
What is the revenue diversification by market, and how should we interpret the seasonal drop in backlog/bookings? - Howard Root (Private Investor)
2025Q4: The backlog drop from Q3 to Q4 is normal due to seasonality (strong Q4 bookings, Q1 fulfillment) and efforts to move older backlog to finished goods. - Rob Dawson(CEO)
What factors contributed to the backlog growth, and how much is expected to be recognized in the next year? - Matthew Maus (B. Riley)
2025Q2: Backlog growth is broad-based across several product areas and not concentrated in one large order... The backlog stood at $18.4 million as of the call date. - Robert Dawson(CEO)
Contradiction Point 4
Growth Trajectory Description
Inconsistent characterization of growth drivers and sales patterns.
What is the growth trajectory for fiscal 2026, especially with the first quarter nearly complete? - Matthew (on behalf of Josh Nichols, B. Riley)
2025Q4: For 2026, another year of growth is expected, with a trajectory similar to 2025, starting from a lower Q1 (due to seasonality) and accelerating. - Rob Dawson(CEO)
What drove the sequential sales growth in the seasonally slow quarter, and what portion is attributed to carrier OpEx? - Matthew Moss (B. Riley)
2025Q1: The increase was largely driven by new product lines (DAC, small cells) contributing more significantly... The primary factors were the addition of new product offerings and improved contributions from both OpEx and CapEx segments. - Rob Dawson(CEO)
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