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Date of Call: Jan 16, 2026
Earnings Performance and Strategic Execution:
strong full-year earnings of $2.1 billion, resulting in earnings per share of $2.30 or $2.33 on an adjusted basis, and a one of the highest returns on tangible common equity in the industry at just over 18%.$514 million, with earnings per share of $0.58 and $0.57 on an adjusted basis, despite some negative impacts.Loan Growth and Market Dynamics:
reduction in loans outstanding due to strategic portfolio management and focus on risk-adjusted returns.modest improvement in loan demand throughout 2025, with expectations for loan growth to return to more normal levels in 2026.Deposits and Interest Rates:
$800 million, supported by strong customer acquisition and retention, with average deposits roughly flat.16 basis points, equating to a 36% link quarter beta, with expectations for a mid-30s beta over time.Non-Interest Income and Expense Management:
5% in 2025, driven by record fee income in wealth management and corporate bank businesses.2% in 2025, with salaries and benefits rising due to higher health insurance costs and revenue-based incentives.Credit Quality and Risk Management:
59 basis points, reflecting progress in resolving previously identified portfolios of interest.$27 million, with a decline in the allowance ratio to 1.76%.
Overall Tone: Positive
Contradiction Point 1
Loan Growth Outlook and Primary Driver
Inconsistent identification of the primary driver for 2026 loan growth.
2025Q4: Commercial banking will be the primary driver of loan growth in 2026, while consumer growth is expected to be modest. - John(CEO)
Will loan growth accelerate in 2026, surpassing GDP growth? - David Rochester (Cantor Fitzgerald)
2025Q3: The bank expects loan growth to align with GDP in its markets, plus a bit (currently around 2%). Guidance for 2026 will be provided later. - David Turner(CFO)
Contradiction Point 2
Status and Outlook for Portfolio Runoff/Charge-offs
Contradiction on whether remaining exit portfolios could grow and become a new headwind.
What is the breakdown of loan growth guidance between C&I and consumer? Is any further runoff or capital markets movement included in the outlook? - Ryan Nash (Goldman Sachs)
2025Q4: Most portfolio shaping and runoff activities are considered complete. - John(CEO)
Could the remaining $300 million in exit portfolios grow into a headwind? - John Pancari (Evercore ISI)
2025Q3: The bank does not anticipate significant additional reductions beyond the identified $300 million. Ongoing rigor in capital allocation means new exits may occur in the future, but they will be balanced with improving returns on capital. - John Turner(CEO) & David Turner(CFO)
Contradiction Point 3
Commercial Banking Loan Growth Focus and Outlook
The expected pace and drivers of loan growth appear inconsistent.
Can you break down the loan growth guidance by C&I and consumer segments, and clarify if further runoff or capital markets activity is factored into the outlook? - Ryan Nash (Goldman Sachs)
2025Q4: Commercial banking will be the primary driver of loan growth in 2026, while consumer growth is expected to be modest. Most portfolio shaping and runoff activities are considered complete. - John(CEO)
Given increased competition, will loan growth match or exceed industry average? - Steven A. Alexopoulos (TD Cowen)
2025Q2: The focus is on disciplined portfolio positioning... The company may grow slower if it means exiting unprofitable portfolios... Long-term, they aim to grow with the economy plus a little in their markets. - John M. Turner(CEO)
Contradiction Point 4
Capital Return Priority and Share Buyback Pace
Contradiction on the priority of share buybacks versus loan growth.
How are you balancing share buyback pace with CET1 capital and loan growth needs? - John Pancari (Evercore)
2025Q4: The primary focus is to invest in good quality loan growth. Share buybacks are a secondary priority when loan growth is not absorbing all capital. - Anil Chadha (CFO)
What is the pace of share buybacks for the rest of the year, with a strong CET1 ratio and in light of muted growth and economic uncertainty? - John Pancari (Evercore)
2025Q1: If loan demand remains low, capital will be returned via buybacks. - David Turner (CFO)
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