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Date of Call: November 10, 2025
DSOs decreasing to the lower-70s and a 46% sequential improvement in cash from operations for Q3. - These improvements were driven by operational excellence initiatives focused on billing faster, collecting from clients sooner, and enhancing vendor management practices.
$63.3 million, a 13% decline from the previous year but a 6.4% sequential increase.The sequential increase was attributed to new clients added over the past 18 months, which contributed over $24 million in incremental revenue year-over-year.
Profitability and Gross Margin:
$11.5 million, with a 2% decline year-over-year but a 3.9% sequential increase.
Overall Tone: Positive
Contradiction Point 1
Industrial Market Stability
It involves the assessment of the industrial market stability, which is crucial for strategic planning and investor expectations.
Has the industrial market stabilized or are more Q4 headwinds expected? Are other end markets stable? - Gerard Sweeney (ROTH Capital Partners, LLC, Research Division)
2025Q3: The macroeconomic environment is uncertain, but our markets are stabilized. - Perry Moss(CEO)
Is the industrial sector's weakness persisting, and are there indications of a recovery in the next quarter? - Gerard J. Sweeney (ROTH Capital Partners, LLC, Research Division)
2025Q2: Our industrials will continue to follow the general economy. Therefore, it's tough to predict what's to come. - Perry Moss(CEO)
Contradiction Point 2
Customer Attrition and Retention
It involves the reporting of customer attrition and retention strategies, which are key performance indicators for the company's operational effectiveness.
How do you view the upcoming renewals and what strategies are in place to retain clients? - Gregg Kitt (Pinnacle Family Office Investments, L.P.)
2025Q3: We're working on renewals early and maintaining strong relationships with clients. - Perry Moss(CEO)
2025Q2: Most issues are from the divested mall business and a customer acquisition. There's no additional attrition beyond this. - Perry Moss(CEO)
Contradiction Point 3
Market Stability and Demand
It involves differing perspectives on the stability of the industrial market and the demand for services, which are crucial for understanding the company's strategic positioning and financial performance.
Has the industrial market stabilized, with more headwinds expected in Q4, and how are other end markets performing? - Gerard Sweeney (ROTH Capital Partners, LLC, Research Division)
2025Q3: The macroeconomic environment is uncertain, but our markets are stabilized. Industrial volumes will see seasonality in Q4. - Perry Moss(CEO)
Have end markets weakened further in the past eight weeks? Are sales cycles slowing down? - Gerry Sweeney (ROTH Capital)
2025Q1: We're not seeing an increase in market weakness. Volumes are slightly down, but we remain hopeful. - Perry Moss(CEO)
Contradiction Point 4
DSO Improvement and Strategy
It highlights differing approaches and progress in addressing elevated Days Sales Outstanding (DSO), which is critical for maintaining cash flow and financial health.
How did you reduce DSOs, and what's the AR management outlook? - Gregg Kitt (Pinnacle Family Office Investments, L.P.)
2025Q3: We're billing the majority of clients on time, focusing on reducing the billing tail. - Perry Moss(CEO), Brett Johnston(CFO)
How do you plan to reduce DSOs? - Gerry Sweeney (ROTH Capital)
2025Q1: DSOs are elevated due to larger clients not paying on time. - Brett Johnston(CFO)
Contradiction Point 5
Industrial Market Stabilization and Seasonality
It involves differing perspectives on the stability and seasonality of the industrial market, which is crucial for forecasting company performance and investor expectations.
Has the industrial market stabilized, or will there be more headwinds in Q4? - Gerard Sweeney(ROTH Capital Partners)
2025Q3: Industrial volumes will see seasonality in Q4. - Perry Moss(CEO)
Can you clarify the vendor management system rollout, associated costs, and timeline for resolution? - Aaron Spychalla(Craig-Hallum)
2024Q4: The industrial weakness is expected to improve in the second half of the year. - Brett Johnston(CFO)
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