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Date of Call: Jan 13, 2026
revenue of $108.8 million for Q4 2025, compared to $111.5 million in the prior year quarter, reflecting a slight decline.Segment Performance and Growth:
$72.2 million, down from $74.5 million the previous year, while the U.S. concrete waste management services segment saw an 8% increase to $21.3 million.Capital Investment and Regulatory Compliance:
$22 million investment into fiscal 2026 in anticipation of stricter NOx emission standards effective January 1, 2027.Outlook and Strategic Positioning:
$390-$410 million, with Adjusted EBITDA between $90-$100 million, assuming no significant recovery in construction markets.
Overall Tone: Neutral
Contradiction Point 1
U.S. Commercial Construction Market Outlook
The assessment of the commercial market's recovery timing and current state shows inconsistency between the quarters.
What is the current outlook for the residential construction market—is it softening, stabilizing, or recovering? - Tim Mulrooney (William Blair)
2025Q4: In key regions, residential demand was softer last year but is starting to improve slightly, with expectations for further improvement during the year... The company is optimistic on residential due to moderating mortgage rates and the Federal Reserve's path to rate reductions. - Bruce Young(CEO)
Could you clarify the implied guidance for Q4, particularly the margin increase despite lower revenue, and discuss the recovery outlook and changes since last quarter's commentary? - Andrew J. Wittmann (Robert W. Baird & Co. Incorporated, Research Division)
2025Q3: Bidding activity has increased slightly. Residential remains resilient. U.S. infrastructure projects are starting more rapidly... The company is becoming more optimistic for next year but it's too early to predict. - Bruce Young(CEO)
Contradiction Point 2
Pricing Pressure in the U.S. Business
The expected duration of pricing pressure is presented differently in the two quarters.
What's driving the modest revenue growth in the 2026 guidance—primarily acquisitions or organic growth? - Tim Mulrooney (William Blair)
2025Q4: The expected revenue growth is primarily due to pricing improvement on largely consistent year-over-year volumes... - Iain Humphries(CFO)
Is pricing pressure in the U.S. business stabilizing or still a factor? - Brent Thielman (D.A. Davidson & Co., Research Division)
2025Q3: Pricing pressure still exists as competitors target more complex projects and residential markets are soft. This is expected to continue for about six more months before easing with market recovery. - Bruce Young(CEO)
Contradiction Point 3
Commercial Market Recovery Timing
The expected timeline for commercial market recovery differs between the U.K. and U.S. markets.
What is the current outlook for the residential construction market trend (softening, stabilizing, or recovering)? - Tim Mulrooney (William Blair)
2025Q4: In key regions, residential demand was softer last year but is starting to improve slightly, with expectations for further improvement during the year... The company is optimistic on residential... - Bruce Young(CEO)
Does a 2027 construction recovery imply continued 2026 decline, and what is the recovery's trajectory over the next 12-18 months? - Benjamin Luke McFadden (William Blair & Company L.L.C., Research Division)
2025Q3: A recovery is expected by 2027, but the exact timing within 2026 is uncertain. The company is not comfortable providing guidance for 2026 at this time. - Bruce Young(CEO)
Contradiction Point 4
Timeline for Commercial Construction Market Recovery
The expected timing for the commercial construction market to recover is presented differently between the two quarters.
What are the outlook and expectations for the U.K. group and EcoPan in 2026? - Brent Thielman (D.A. Davidson)
2025Q4: The commercial market recovery is uncertain and may lag the U.S. by about six months. - Bruce Young(CEO)
Does the comment about no meaningful construction market recovery until 2026 apply to both commercial and residential sectors, or is it specific to a particular end market? - Benjamin Luke McFadden (William Blair & Company L.L.C.)
2025Q2: The commercial market recovery is anticipated once tariff-related delays subside and interest rates are reduced... optimism that the commercial market could recover quickly once the tariff situation stabilizes. - Bruce F. Young(CEO)
Contradiction Point 5
Nature of Project Delays in Commercial Construction
The primary cause of project delays in the commercial segment is described differently.
Have any planned projects been cancelled due to high-interest rate delays, and what is the current backlog status? - Andy Whitman (Baird)
2025Q4: Concern is limited to office buildings and some manufacturing projects, which have been shelved with no clear timeline for restart. - Bruce Young(CEO)
Has there been an increase in project delays since April? - Jean Franco Veliz (D.A. Davidson & Co.)
2025Q2: Project delays, particularly in commercial construction, are largely linked to tariff-related uncertainty. - Bruce F. Young(CEO)
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