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Date of Call: October 31, 2025
27% increase in revenue and a 51% growth in adjusted EBITDA for Q3 2025, excluding the divested steel components business. - The significant growth was driven by the accretive contribution of the $1.2 billion Stavola acquisition and strong performance across all three business segments.$150 million in adjusted segment EBITDA and a 300 basis points margin expansion.Growth was led by the Stavola acquisition, which delivered $105 million in adjusted EBITDA with a 35.2% margin, and higher ASPs and volumes in the aggregates business.
Engineered Structures Segment Performance:
29% increase in adjusted segment EBITDA and improved margins by 240 basis points.The segment benefited from higher revenues and operating improvements in the utility structures business, supported by a record backlog and strong customer demand.
Transportation Products Segment Orders:
$148 million for both hopper and tank barges, reflecting a book-to-bill of 1.5.16% year-to-date increase.Overall Tone: Positive
Contradiction Point 1
Wind Tower Production and Orders
It involves discrepancies in the company's expectations and plans regarding wind tower production and orders, which could impact revenue and operational planning.
What is the outlook for incremental wind tower orders? How was the backlog acceleration decision made? - Ian Zaffino (Oppenheimer & Co. Inc., Research Division)
2025Q3: We're still early in discussions with customers. Historically, the wind industry accelerates before tax credits end, and we've shifted some backlog to 2026 to capture current incentives. New orders are received, and our production visibility is good for 2026 and 2027. - Antonio Carrillo(CEO)
Could you clarify the Wind Tower business's current capacity to accept new orders and your strategy for managing new orders and capacity utilization? - Isaac Arthur Sellhausen (Oppenheimer & Co. Inc.)
2025Q2: We have 3 plants operating with capacity utilization of about 60%, with flexibility to increase production if needed. With policy clarity, customers are optimistic about the next few years for wind, and we're excited to support the industry. We're working on new orders and see potential for more clarity in the future. - Antonio Carrillo(CEO)
Contradiction Point 2
Revenue Growth Expectations in Engineered Structures
It involves differing expectations regarding revenue growth in the Engineered Structures segment, which is crucial for understanding the company's growth strategy and financial performance.
When will capacity investments in Engineered Structures be made and when will they begin contributing to growth? - Jean Paul Ramirez (D.A. Davidson & Co., Research Division)
2025Q3: Capacity investments are underway, with production expected to ramp up by the end of the year. This will contribute positively to growth in 2027 as we meet customer demand for utility structures. - Antonio Carrillo(CEO)
How should we think about Aggregates' gross profit per ton growth in H2? Is there a long-term target for this metric? - Garik Simha Shmois (Loop Capital Markets LLC)
2025Q2: We expect to continue strong gross profit per ton growth in the back half, benefiting from Stavola acquisitions. While we haven't set a specific target, maintaining growth in GP per ton is key, driven by pricing discipline and cost control. - Gail M. Peck(CFO)
Contradiction Point 3
Wind Tower Production and Backlog
It involves changes in expectations regarding wind tower production and backlog, which directly impacts revenue projections and market positioning for the company.
What is the outlook for incremental wind tower orders? How was the decision to accelerate the backlog made? - Ian Zaffino (Oppenheimer & Co. Inc., Research Division)
2025Q3: We're still early in discussions with customers. Historically, the wind industry accelerates before tax credits end, and we've shifted some backlog to 2026 to capture current incentives. New orders are received, and our production visibility is good for 2026 and 2027. - Antonio Carrillo(CEO)
Can you clarify the wind tower's contribution to sales and profit this quarter, excluding the impact of steel prices on the utility segment? - Julio Romero (Sidoti & Company)
2025Q1: The wind tower business in the quarter grew 32% year-over-year, with strong backlog visibility. We have a record number of wind tower units on order, with over $1.1 billion in backlog. - Gail Peck(CFO)
Contradiction Point 4
Aggregates Pricing and Demand
It involves differing perspectives on aggregate pricing and demand trends, which are crucial for revenue forecasting and strategic decision-making in the aggregates segment.
Can you discuss the pricing outlook for aggregates in '26? - Julio Romero (Sidoti & Company, LLC)
2025Q3: We're optimistic about pricing as demand improves, especially in infrastructure. The volume recovery is a critical aspect of pricing, and we expect to continue passing through pricing increases to customers. - Antonio Carrillo(CEO)
How will organic and Stavola's impacts affect aggregate pricing growth for the rest of the year? - Garik Shmois (Loop Capital Markets)
2025Q1: Aggregates pricing is expected to grow mid-single digits for the full year. The January 1 price increases were in line with expectations. Local market conditions drive future pricing adjustments. - Gail Peck(CFO)
Contradiction Point 5
Wind Energy Orders and Production Visibility
It involves conflicting statements about the outlook for wind energy orders and production visibility, which could impact investor expectations regarding the company's growth in this segment.
What is the outlook for incremental wind tower orders? How was the backlog acceleration decision made? - Ian Zaffino (Oppenheimer & Co. Inc., Research Division)
2025Q3: We're still early in discussions with customers. Historically, the wind industry accelerates before tax credits end, and we've shifted some backlog to 2026 to capture current incentives. New orders are received, and our production visibility is good for 2026 and 2027. - Antonio Carrillo(CEO)
What is the customer sentiment on wind energy? How has the administration impacted customer sentiment? - Unidentified Analyst (Stephens)
2024Q4: Demand for renewable energy, particularly wind, remains strong. The current administration's impact on sentiment is neutral as the focus is on load growth. Customer expectations include flat orders in 2026, with growth anticipated thereafter. Backlog provides strong visibility for 2025. - Antonio Carrillo(CEO)
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