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Date of Call: October 29, 2025
gross profit of $138.6 million for Q3 2025, up 2.4% year-over-year. - The company's gross margin expanded by 90 basis points to 19.6%, driven by strong growth in cloud software, cybersecurity, and services. - This was attributed to strong performance in the Business Solutions and Enterprise Solutions segments, despite challenges in the Public Sector Solutions segment.Public Sector Solutions segment saw net sales decline to $132.5 million, down 24.3% from the previous year.The company anticipates a rebound in this segment once funding cycles normalize.
Strong Performance in Business Solutions and Enterprise Solutions:
Business Solutions segment, net sales grew by 1.7% to $256.8 million, with gross profit increasing by 7.8% to $68 million.Enterprise Solutions segment saw net sales rise by 7.7% to $319.8 million.Growth in these segments was driven by strong demand for cloud, cybersecurity, AI infrastructure, data center modernization, and edge computing solutions.
Profitability and Shareholder Returns:
flat year-over-year, showing good cost discipline despite continued investments.capital to shareholders through dividends and share repurchases, with over 1 million shares repurchased year-to-date.Overall Tone: Positive
Contradiction Point 1
Budget Flush and Q4 Growth Expectations
It involves differing perspectives on the potential for a budget flush and growth expectations for the fourth quarter, which are crucial for understanding the company's financial outlook.
How are you thinking about year-end and Q4 as a typical budget flush period? - Adam Tindle (Raymond James & Associates, Inc., Research Division)
2025Q3: We're seeing early signs of budget flush in our Enterprise segment, which is building momentum for Q4. Business Solutions segment also forecasts a good Q4. The wildcard remains our Public Sector business, where recovery timing is uncertain. - Tim McGrath(CEO)
What is the outlook for the second half of the year and demand trends this quarter? - Adam Tyler Tindle (Raymond James & Associates, Inc., Research Division)
2025Q2: We're optimistic about opportunities in retail and manufacturing for the back half of the year. Front half performance was stronger in finance and health care, but health care had some year-over-year comparisons due to large rollouts from a year ago. - Timothy J. McGrath(CEO)
Contradiction Point 2
Backlog and Revenue Growth Expectations
It involves differing views on the factors contributing to the backlog and expectations for revenue growth, which are important indicators for the company's performance.
What caused the record Q3 backlog—supply chain issues or customer project delays? - Adam Tindle (Raymond James & Associates, Inc., Research Division)
2025Q3: The majority of our backlog is customer-driven due to customer delays. - Tim McGrath(CEO)
Can you provide context for the second half of the year and discuss demand trends for the quarter? - Adam Tyler Tindle (Raymond James & Associates, Inc., Research Division)
2025Q2: Our backlog is at a record level, and there's a pickup in activity. While the first half of 2025 was slower than expected, optimism is now driven by technology and solution-based discussions. Our pipeline continues to show strength and growth. - Timothy J. McGrath(CEO)
Contradiction Point 3
Gross Margin Expectations
It involves changes in financial forecasts, specifically regarding gross margin expectations, which are critical indicators for investors.
What are your expectations for gross and operating margins moving forward? - Anthony Lebiedzinski (Sidoti & Company, LLC)
2025Q3: We expect mid-single-digit sales growth in Q4, with gross margins potentially flat due to a different software and cloud mix. Spending may be slightly higher than Q3. - Thomas Baker(CFO)
Moving into the second half of the year, will gross margins stay at Q2 levels, or is there directional guidance available? - Anthony Chester Lebiedzinski (Sidoti & Company, LLC)
2025Q2: Gross margins should remain fairly stable, give or take 10-15 basis points, as the impact of licensing fee program reductions has largely been accounted for. - Thomas C. Baker(CFO)
Contradiction Point 4
IT Spending Trends
It involves differing perspectives on the trends in IT spending, which is crucial for understanding the company's growth prospects.
What's your outlook for IT spending next year? - Adam Tindle (Raymond James & Associates, Inc., Research Division)
2025Q3: We expect mid-single-digit growth for 2026, with continued growth in data center, cloud, and cybersecurity. AI PC refresh could level off but will still deliver strong results. - Tim McGrath(CEO)
Which customer types or verticals accelerated purchases versus those that held back, and were specific product categories involved? - Adam Tindle (Raymond James)
2025Q1: Many customers are concerned about cost containment and expense reduction, preparing for economic uncertainties and tariffs. Some customers are realizing that technology can drive productivity and are moving forward with projects. - Tim McGrath(CEO)
Contradiction Point 5
Public Sector Sales and Federal Government Impact
It pertains to differing expectations regarding the timing and impact of a federal government shutdown on sales, which could affect revenue projections.
How did the government shutdown affect your Q4 results? - Anthony Lebiedzinski(Sidoti & Company, LLC)
2025Q3: The shutdown is affecting our ability to ship products, which is a concern. We hope the situation resolves soon, allowing us to catch up on demand. - Tim McGrath(CEO)
Can you discuss the expected impact of tariffs? - Anthony Lebiedzinski(Sidoti & Company, LLC)
2024Q4: Public Sector was down about 15%. And it was really just a matter, as we talked before, of the timing, was it going to be drilled down and the number of days out as we got to the end of the quarter, that we just really couldn't get the product out there. - Thomas Baker(CFO)
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