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Date of Call: November 3, 2025
revenue of $310.7 million for Q3 2025, up 34.2% year-over-year. - The growth was driven by increased number of billers, higher transaction values, early launches of large enterprise customers, and increased activity on its Instant Payment Network (IPN).36.5%, with incremental adjusted EBITDA margin exceeding 60%.This was largely due to the successful onboarding of new billers and higher transaction values, which significantly improved operating leverage and profitability.
Large Enterprise and Mid-Market Expansion:
This expansion was driven by vertical-agnostic platform engineering, which allows for effective penetration across various industries, and the onboarding of clients in new verticals.
Improved Cash Flow and Financial Health:
140%.Overall Tone: Positive
Contradiction Point 1
Seasonality and Large Biller Impact
It involves the explanation of seasonality and the impact of large billers launched in previous quarters on current growth, which affects investor expectations and financial forecasting.
What are the key factors affecting visibility for next year versus last year’s same period, and are there any changes in client replacement patterns? - Tien-Tsin Huang(JPMorgan)
2025Q3: We are now targeting larger clients who previously thought they couldn't use third-party platforms. They're looking for control, specific configurations, and large-scale solutions. Paymentus, now at $1 billion, is seen as a partner, replacing in-house and legacy solutions. - Sanjay Kalra(CFO) and Dushyant Sharma(CEO)
Why is this year's Q2 growth different from historical trends, and why isn't Q3 showing the usual acceleration from Q2? Are there specific differences in this year's trend? - David John Koning(Robert W. Baird & Co. Incorporated)
2025Q2: It took up to four quarters for large enterprise billers launched in Q3 of last year to fully impact our results. We expect a more pronounced contribution from these large billers in the coming quarters. - Sanjay Kalra(CFO)
Contradiction Point 2
Bad Debt Expense Impact on Adjusted EBITDA Margin
It involves the explanation of the impact of bad debt expenses on adjusted EBITDA margin, which is a critical financial indicator for investors.
How sustainable is the high free cash flow conversion, what factors are driving it, and how does the company forecast future cash flows? - John Davis(Raymond James)
2025Q3: The bad debt expense is quite small compared to our business size and revenues. It is primarily due to some old amounts that are prudently written off. The impact on adjusted EBITDA margin is not material, and we view it as insignificant. - Sanjay Kalra(CFO)
What caused the recent increase in bad debt expense affecting adjusted EBITDA margin? - David John Koning(Robert W. Baird & Co. Incorporated)
2025Q2: The bad debt expense is quite small compared to our business size and revenues. It is primarily due to some old amounts that are prudently written off. The impact on adjusted EBITDA margin is not material, and we view it as insignificant. - Sanjay Kalra(CFO)
Contradiction Point 3
Growth Drivers and Revenue Forecasts
It involves the factors driving revenue growth and the company's ability to meet financial forecasts, which are critical for investor expectations and strategic planning.
What is the impact of the four key factors driving revenue growth, and will they continue into Q4 and early 2026? - Craig Maurer (FT Partners)
2025Q3: Prioritized factors include new biller launches, same-store sales, early launches of large customers, and IPN network. All are expected to continue into Q4 and 2026, contributing to consistent growth. - Sanjay Kalra(CFO)
What drove the transaction growth: new clients or same-store sales? - Dave Koning (Baird)
2025Q1: Both new clients and same-store sales are growing at a good pace. The trend in the first quarter is that new client implementations seem to be a bigger piece, but same-store sales are also growing nicely. The customer mix in the pipeline and backlog suggests a similar trend should continue. - Sanjay Kalra(CFO)
Contradiction Point 4
Free Cash Flow and Cash Flow Forecasting
It involves the company's ability to generate cash and its expectations for future cash flow, which are crucial for financial planning and investor confidence.
How sustainable is the current high free cash flow conversion, what factors are driving it, and how do you forecast future cash flows? - John Davis (Raymond James)
2025Q3: Cash flow strength is due to high incremental adjusted EBITDA margin. Free cash flow exceeds 100% of adjusted EBITDA. Forecasting involves adjusting for taxes, interest, and capital expenses. Continued strong collection practices contribute to cash flow generation. - Sanjay Kalra(CFO)
What drove the strong free cash flow and how should it be viewed for the rest of 2025? - John Davis (Raymond James)
2025Q1: The strong free cash flow was driven by cash from operations and working capital efficiency. Cash flow will fluctuate quarterly, and the goal is to generate cash above EBITDA annually after taxes. The company has enough liquidity to invest in working capital as needed. - Sanjay Kalra(CFO)
Contradiction Point 5
Growth Drivers and Challenges in the Bill Payment Segment
It involves the company's reported growth in the bill payment segment and the factors driving it, which are crucial for understanding the company's performance and strategic direction.
Can you provide comments on onboarding a new B2B customer in a new industry, the relationship context, and future B2B opportunities? - John Davis (Raymond James)
2025Q3: We added specific workflows to target B2B clients only, attracting a large client in a new vertical. Our platform's horizontal approach allows us to expand into new industries. This B2B client exceeded expectations in platform usage, indicating potential for further growth and targeted expansion in this vertical. - Dushyant Sharma(CEO)
What are the growth drivers and challenges in the bill payment segment? - Dave Koning (Baird)
2024Q4: Our bill payment segment experienced significant growth driven by increasing customer acquisition and strong merchant retention. We saw a 45% increase in merchant customers, and bill volume grew by 39%. The growth is attributed to our advanced product offerings, which enhance the user experience and create stickiness. However, there have been some delays in integrating new merchants due to compliance issues. - Sanjay Kalra(CFO)
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