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Date of Call: October 31, 2025
6% decline in RevPAR for Q3, or 5% excluding the Royal Palm South Beach.The decline was due to a meaningful drop in group demand, impacts from renovations, and softer leisure and government demands.
Capital Investment and Asset Enhancement:
$325 million in strategic capital enhancements, primarily through renovations and expansion projects.These investments are aimed at improving the quality and growth potential of core assets, such as the Signia and Waldorf Astoria in Orlando, and mainland projects like Casa Marina in Key West.
Dividend Strategy and Capital Allocation:
over $50 million for strategic initiatives and debt reduction.This move is part of a strategy to focus on strategic investments and leverage reduction to enhance future growth and shareholder value.
Non-Core Assets Disposition:
15 non-core assets to enhance its portfolio quality.6% and 70 basis points, respectively.Overall Tone: Neutral
Contradiction Point 1
Group Booking and Demand Outlook
It involves differing perspectives on the outlook for group bookings and demand recovery in Hawaii, which are crucial for revenue projections and investor expectations.
What are your expectations for group bookings and performance in 2026? - Bennett Rose(Citigroup)
2025Q3: We expect group pace to be flat in '26 and up 4.1% in '27. Strong markets include Bonnet Creek, Hyatt Boston, and Caribe. We expect positive impacts from a more accommodative Fed, easing financial conditions, and major events. - Thomas Baltimore(CEO)
Are 2026 group bookings showing sustained strength, and are there notable market-specific performance variations? - Smedes Rose(Citi)
2025Q2: 2026 group pace is expected to be relatively flat, while 2027 shows potential to grow by 4% to 5%. Key markets like Bonnet Creek, San Diego, Chicago, Hilton Caribe, and Seattle are expected to perform well. Hawaii is expected to recover with a strong Q4, driven by favorable comps and group bookings. - Thomas Baltimore(CEO)
Contradiction Point 2
Non-Core Asset Disposals
It involves differing statements about the timeline and progress of non-core asset disposals, which impact the company's portfolio strategy and potential revenue impacts.
Can you discuss the conviction in selling non-core assets and any hurdles in closing these deals? - Chris Woronka(Deutsche Bank)
2025Q3: We are focused on selling non-core assets to concentrate on our top 20 properties. Despite market volatility, we are committed to completing these sales. We have made significant progress, returning $3 billion from asset sales since the spin. - Thomas Baltimore(CEO)
Will all 18 noncore hotels be divested by year-end 2024, and what will clean EBITDA be post-divestiture? - Floris Gerbrand Hendrik Van Dijkum(Ladenburg)
2025Q2: Our goal is to clean up the noncore portfolio by the end of next year... This will significantly enhance the quality of the portfolio, and we're focused on reinvesting in the core portfolio. - Thomas Baltimore(CEO)
Contradiction Point 3
Asset Sales and Market Conditions
It involves the company's strategy and confidence in selling non-core assets, which affects financial strategy and investor perceptions.
What is the conviction level in selling non-core assets, and what challenges exist in closing these deals? - Chris Woronka (Deutsche Bank AG, Research Division)
2025Q3: We are focused on selling non-core assets to concentrate on our top 20 properties. Despite market volatility, we are committed to completing these sales. - Thomas Baltimore(CEO)
Can you comment on the planned asset sales and current market environment? Are you confident in securing reasonable prices and finding buyers? - Floris Van Dijkum (Compass Point)
2025Q1: We've faced great uncertainty with geopolitical issues like tariffs causing hesitancy. However, our track record shows success in selling 45 hotels since the spin-off. We're cautiously optimistic but won't disclose details until transactions close. - Tom Baltimore(CEO)
Contradiction Point 4
Dividend Strategy and Shareholder Returns
It involves the company's approach to returning capital to shareholders through dividends, which can impact investor expectations and perceptions of financial management.
Is the decision not to pay the special dividend driven solely by tax considerations, or are there other factors? - Bennett Rose(Citigroup Inc., Research Division)
2025Q3: We have returned over $1.3 billion to shareholders since 2020. The current 9%-10% dividend yield is healthy. We think it's appropriate not to declare a top-off dividend for 2025 to preserve liquidity for strategic initiatives and leverage reduction, ensuring $50 million is available for these purposes. - Thomas Baltimore(CEO)
How will the $300–$400 million non-core asset disposition be allocated? What portion will go to ROI projects vs. share repurchases? - Floris Gerbrand van Dijkum(Compass Point)
2024Q4: We will use the proceeds to invest in our core portfolio, pay down debt, and opportunistically buy back shares. We continue to achieve higher yields from development projects over acquisitions at this point. - Thomas Baltimore(CEO)
Contradiction Point 5
Group Pace and Demand Expectations
It involves the company's expectations for group bookings and demand recovery, which can impact revenue projections and strategic planning.
What are your expectations for group bookings and performance in 2026? - Bennett Rose(Citigroup Inc., Research Division)
2025Q3: We expect group pace to be flat in '26 and up 4.1% in '27. - Thomas Baltimore(CEO)
What is the allocation plan for the $300 million to $400 million non-core asset disposition target? What percentage will be allocated to ROI projects versus share buybacks? - Bennett Rose(Citigroup Inc., Research Division)
2024Q4: Group pace for full year 2025 is expected to be approximately 70% of 2019 levels. - Thomas Baltimore(CEO)
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