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Date of Call: November 7, 2025

record gross written premium of $597.2 million for Q3 2025, up 44% year-on-year, and 70% growth in adjusted net income.11% year-over-year in Q3, with a robust 88% policy retention rate. Growth was attributed to healthy new business production and strong policy retention, aided by a 10% inflation guard.
Inland Marine and Other Property Growth:
50% year-over-year growth in Q3, with significant contributions from Hawaii hurricane and residential flood products. This growth was supported by strong market demand and the partnership with Neptune Flood.
Casualty Segment Expansion:
170% year-over-year gross written premium growth in Q3, representing a significant sequential improvement. This growth is attributed to disciplined underwriting, maintaining net limits below $1 million, and leveraging quota share reinsurance.
Surety Market Expansion:
Overall Tone: Positive
Contradiction Point 1
Crop Business Growth and Premium Timing
It involves differing expectations regarding the growth trajectory and premium timing for the Crop business, which directly impacts revenue projections and investor expectations.
What’s the future outlook for the Crop business? - Jon Paul Newsome (Piper Sandler & Co.)
2025Q3: Mac Armstrong highlighted the growth in the Crop business, with plans to reach $500 million in premiums within a few years and $1 billion ultimately. - Mac Armstrong(CEO)
How is the Crop business impacting premium and loss bookings compared to normal patterns? - Meyer Shields (Keefe, Bruyette, & Woods, Inc.)
2025Q2: Crop premium and losses came in earlier than expected, impacting Q2. The season has been favorable, with more premium reported than usual. - Toshio Christopher Uchida(CFO)
Contradiction Point 2
Commercial Earthquake Pricing Outlook
It involves differing perspectives on the outlook for Commercial Earthquake pricing, which affects underwriting strategies and revenue projections.
Will commercial rates stabilize or continue to decline? - Andrew Andersen (Jefferies LLC)
2025Q3: Mac Armstrong acknowledged the continued softening but clarified that residential earthquake, which is 61% of the book, provides leverage and stability. - Mac Armstrong(CEO)
Can you discuss the growth of Earthquake in residential vs. commercial segments and the Commercial Earthquake pricing outlook? - Peter B. Knudsen (Evercore ISI Institutional Equities)
2025Q2: Residential Earthquake is larger and has a 6% to 7% growth rate due to its inflation guard and strong retention. Commercial Earthquake faces more pressure, with large commercial accounts seeing significant rate declines. - D. McDonald Armstrong(CEO)
Contradiction Point 3
Rate Pressure and Market Conditions
It involves differing perspectives on market conditions and the pressure on rates, impacting expectations for future growth and profitability.
Will commercial rates stabilize or continue to decline? - Andrew Andersen (Jefferies LLC)
2025Q3: Mac Armstrong acknowledged the continued softening but clarified that residential earthquake, which is 61% of the book, provides leverage and stability. The overall mix and leverage across the portfolio will allow for growth despite ongoing rate pressure. - Mac Armstrong(CEO)
Are competitors increasing layers or intensifying competition within layers in commercial quake insurance? - Mark Hughes (Truist Securities)
2025Q1: More competition in large layered and shared accounts, with London markets and traditional reinsurers entering. Balanced book strategy helps control risk and maintain relationships. - Mac Armstrong(CEO)
Contradiction Point 4
Catastrophe (Cat) Loss Expectations
It involves differing expectations about catastrophe losses, which can significantly impact financial performance and investor expectations.
Does the net income guidance include any catastrophe-related adjustments? - Andrew Andersen (Jefferies LLC)
2025Q3: Chris Uchida mentioned that $1.9 million in cat losses was included in the quarter, and the current guidance does not anticipate major catastrophes for the year. The loss ratio expectations have been updated to be more favorable, around 30% for the year. - Chris Uchida(CFO)
Are you assuming any improvement in reinsurance pricing this year in your guidance? - Jon Paul Newsome (Piper Sandler)
2024Q4: The guidance range assumes a low end of flat renewal to a high end of down 5%. The market is digesting the wildfire impact, so it's prudent to be conservative. We have excess of loss renewals favorable at 1/1 at a 15% reduction. - D. Armstrong(CEO)
Contradiction Point 5
Fronting Business Impact
It involves differing expectations about the impact of the Omaha National partnership on the Fronting business, which can affect revenue and strategic direction.
How has the Omaha National partnership affected the Fronting business? - Mark Hughes (Truist Securities)
2025Q3: Chris Uchida mentioned that the impact of the Omaha National partnership ended, and results in the fourth quarter will reflect the underlying performance in Fronting. - Chris Uchida(CFO)
What is the outlook for fronting in 2025? - Andrew Andersen (Jefferies)
2024Q4: Fronting will be impacted by the loss of the Omaha National deal but should be flat to slightly up on a same-store basis. It will be disproportionately impacted in the first half of the year. - D. Armstrong(CEO)
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