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37 million diabetics and 85 million adults with OSA in the U.S.Owens and Minor plans to focus on technology and automation investments to enhance patient experience, scale business, increase awareness, and reduce costs in these areas.
Financial Performance and Guidance:
$697 million, representing a year-over-year increase of 1.1%.The company affirmed its 2025 guidance for revenue between $2,760 million and $2,820 million and adjusted net income between $1.2 and $1.7 per share.
Profitability and Cash Flow:
$92 million, with a reported 6.3% increase year-to-date compared to 2024.$28 million of free cash flow in the third quarter and $78 million through the first nine months of the year, driven by strong cash flow from continuing operations.Overall Tone: Positive
Contradiction Point 1
Impact of PNHS on Free Cash Flow
It involves differing explanations of the issue with PNHS impacting free cash flow, which is crucial for financial planning and investor confidence.
How is PNHS negatively impacting free cash flow? - Daniel Grosslight (Citi)
2025Q3: It involves a new kitting facility startup with over-acquisition of inventory. This issue will resolve through the next quarter plus. - Ed Pesica(CEO)
How will free cash flow conversion and CapEx change after the P&HS transaction? - Daniel R. Grosslight (Citigroup Inc.)
2025Q2: Annual EBITDA of $376 million to $382 million, net CapEx of $135 million to $140 million, interest of $97 million to $100 million, discontinued operations interest of $30 million to $35 million. Expect free cash flow in the $60 million to $70 million range. - Jonathan A. Leon(CFO)
Contradiction Point 2
Patient Direct's Contract with Kaiser
It pertains to the timeline and impact of the loss of a contract with Kaiser, which could affect revenue projections and operational strategy.
Can you elaborate on preferred vendor agreements? How many agreements are needed to address the Kaiser profitability gap? - Daniel Grosslight (Citi)
2025Q3: We lost a unique, non-margin, and cash flow-positive customer. Covering the loss won't require much additional revenue. - Ed Pesica(CEO)
Should we annualize the second-half run rate of Patient Direct due to the potential loss of the Kaiser contract, and can you still grow in 2026? - Kevin Caliendo (UBS Investment Bank)
2025Q2: Limited impact in 2025, with bulk transition happening in 2026. There will be an opportunity to drive stronger bottom line even with limited top-line growth. - Edward A. Pesicka(CEO)
Contradiction Point 3
Optum Channel Sales and Impact on 2026
It involves the impact of sales into the Optum channel on the company's outlook for 2026, which is crucial for investor expectations.
How durable are these trends through 2026? How are you selling into the Optum channel? - Dan Clark (Leerink Partners)
2025Q3: Selling in the Optum channel is new, and we're tracking as expected. Full 2026 guidance will be provided when we report fourth quarter results. - Ed Pesica(CEO)
Can you outline the revenue and EBITDA guidance by segment for 2025? - Eric Coldwell (Baird)
2024Q4: Helping clients optimize their supply chain and reduce cost is our specialty. We're pleased to have been selected by Optum as their preferred medical and surgical supply partner. This agreement provides us with a preferred position to support Optum's network of more than 1,300 hospitals and 25,000 healthcare providers. - Edward Pesicka(CEO)
Contradiction Point 4
Inventory Impact on Free Cash Flow
It pertains to the impact of inventory levels on free cash flow, which is a critical financial metric for investors.
Can you explain why PNHS is affecting free cash flow? - Daniel Grosslight (Citi)
2025Q3: It involves a new kitting facility startup with over-acquisition of inventory. This issue will resolve through the next quarter plus. - Ed Pesica(CEO)
How does the $100 million buyback align with your cash flow needs? - Kevin Caliendo (UBS)
2024Q4: We expect free cash flow margin to improve sequentially but will remain below historical levels primarily due to the effects of Rotech and inventory build in the PHS segment. - Jonathan Leon(CFO)
Contradiction Point 5
Patient Direct Segment Growth and Performance
It highlights discrepancies in the growth expectations and performance of the Patient Direct segment, which is a key driver of the company's growth strategy.
What is your outlook for 2026? Are there any emerging trends? How should we model run rates and free cash flow? - Kevin Caliendo (UBS)
2025Q3: Increases in both Medicare and commercial volumes were broad-based across all product categories, driven by improved execution, new customer wins and investments in digital fulfillment capabilities. - Ed Pesica(CEO)
Can you break down the growth components for Patient Direct, including volume, price, and market gains? - Michael Cherny (Leerink Partners)
2024Q4: Patient Direct saw mid-single-digit growth in 2024. Growth was driven by diabetes and supplies, with investments yielding positive results in smaller categories. Home respiratory and NIV/Oxygen remain underperforming, but efforts are focused on turning those into growth categories. - Edward Pesicka(CEO)
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