Oscar Health's Q3 2025 Earnings Call: Contradictions Emerge on SG&A Efficiency, Risk Adjustment Payable, and Market Morbidity

Date of Call: None provided

Financials Results

• Revenue: $3.0B, up 23% YOY
• Gross Margin: Medical Loss Ratio 88.5%, up ~380 bps YOY
• Operating Margin: $129M loss from operations (change of $81M YOY)

Guidance:

• Reaffirmed 2025 guidance; total revenue expected toward the low end of $12.0B–$12.2B.
• Full-year medical loss ratio expected 86.0%–87.0%.
• SG&A expense ratio expected 17.1%–17.6%.
• Loss from operations expected $200M–$300M; adjusted EBITDA loss ~ $120M less than loss from operations.
• Q4 membership expected to decline sequentially; risk adjustment as a % of premiums expected in the high mid-teens.
• 2026 planning: weighted average rate increase ~28%; ~$60M administrative cost reduction taken; target to return to profitability in 2026.

Business Commentary:

• Revenue Growth and Market Share Expansion:
• Oscar Health reported total revenue of approximately $3 billion for Q3 2025, representing a 23% increase year over year.

• The growth was driven by higher membership and an effective pricing strategy that balanced membership and profitability in the individual market.

• Medical Loss Ratio and Market Morbidity:

• The company's medical loss ratio (MLR) increased approximately 380 basis points to 88.5% due to higher market morbidity.

• This was attributed to the entry of Medicaid lives into the market and initial impacts of program integrity efforts.

• ** SG&A Expense Improvement:**

• Oscar Health's SG&A expense ratio improved by 150 basis points year over year to 17.5%.

• This improvement was driven by fixed cost leverage, lower exchange fee rates, and disciplined cost management.

• Enhanced Premium Tax Credits and Market Dynamics:

• The expiration of enhanced premium tax credits is expected to lead to a contraction of the overall market by 20-30%.
• Oscar Health's pricing strategy anticipates this change, balancing membership growth and profitability expectations.

  Sentiment Analysis:

  Overall Tone: Neutral

  • Management highlighted strong top-line growth ($3.0B, +23% YOY) but reported a $137M net loss and MLR of 88.5% (+~380 bps YOY), while repeatedly stating they are "confident in our ability to expand margins and return to profitability in 2026."

Q&A:

• Question from Michael Hah (Baird): Regarding the September weekly report, is there any indication how much morbidity was driven by FTR rechecks and removal of duplicative members, and the risk of further morbidity shifts into the December weekly report?
  Response: Weekly report (claims through July) showed ~1.5–2 point market morbidity increase; FTR/dual churn mostly occurred later (45% of CMS list churned) and those members are higher risk; management expects market morbidity to remain consistent through year-end.

• Question from Michael Hah (Baird): On SG&A — you previously targeted ~16% for 2027; are you still confident achieving that even with expected membership attrition and how should we think about decremental margins?
  Response: Yes — confident: AI initiatives and numerous backend models provide further SG&A leverage and variable costs can be fit to membership levels to preserve targets.

• Question from Josh Raskin (Nephron Research): Can you elaborate on underlying cost trends in the quarter, drivers of the prior-period favorable development, and any sense of expected utilization increase entering Q4?
  Response: PPD was $84M (about half from clarified rebate/risk-adjustment items, half from claims); utilization is moderating but modestly above pricing expectations (inpatient elevated but moderating; outpatient slightly elevated; pharmacy favorable).

• Question from Josh Raskin (Nephron Research): If enhanced subsidies are extended, what would create a more stable re-enrollment process and how should we think about consumer impact?
  Response: Oscar has pre-designed $0 Gold/Bronze plans and broker mapping to guide members; extension effects depend on policy design (e.g., minimum MLR could trigger rebates) and price impacts are uncertain until terms are known.

• Question from Jessica Tassan (Piper Sandler): How did 2025 enrollment perform in diabetes/asthma/COPD-specific plans, any risk-adjustment/M RL benefit, and were these plans expanded for 2026?
  Response: Condition-specific plans drive above-average engagement, higher retention and NPS, help manage costs for those members; they remain a small but strategically important and expanding part of membership.

• Question from Jessica Tassan (Piper Sandler): Any early read on Oscar's morbidity in 2026 relative to the market and product/pricing levers to control morbidity?
  Response: Pricing assumes no enhanced credits and anticipates 20–30% market contraction (priced toward high end), so 2026 pricing is conservative and designed to capture share while protecting margins.

• Question from Scott Fidel (Goldman Sachs): What initial intelligence are you seeing in the first days of OEP across channels and how should we interpret activity vs. expected enrollment declines of ~20–30%?
  Response: Early activity is stronger than expected but too early to extrapolate; broker preparation and mapping efforts are working but management will not rely on initial days to forecast enrollment.

• Question from Scott Fidel (Goldman Sachs): How did the latest weekly morbidity data inform your 2026 pricing/positioning?
  Response: Pricing already incorporates conservative assumptions (priced toward the high end of a 20–30% contraction) and thus management views 2026 pricing as resilient to observed morbidity shifts.

• Question from Stephen Baxter (Wells Fargo): Competitive positioning — what percent of markets are you low-cost/competitive vs. 2025, and confirmation on risk-adjustment and cost trend assumptions?
  Response: Oscar was lowest/second-lowest silver in ~15% of markets last year, moving to ~30% this year; risk-adjustment year-to-date ~17% of premiums likely reasonable full-year; core cost trend modestly above prior pricing expectations and 2026 pricing assumes higher trend.

• Question from Jonathan Yong (UBS): If enhanced subsidies are extended, how would you operationalize it and what SG&A step-up would be required?
  Response: SG&A is flexible — variable costs are closely tied to membership and fixed-cost leverage/AI/BPOs provide scalability, so minimal structural SG&A step-up is expected; company is operationally prepared to scale up or down.

• Question from Andrew Mok (Barclays): Why is taking market share the right strategy in 2026 and does that raise adverse selection risk?
  Response: Taking share focuses on members priced out by competitors (who used broader/commercial networks); Oscar’s narrow-network, local underwriting approach targets profitable share gains and management is not highly concerned about adverse selection.

• Question from Craig Jones (Bank of America): If advising Congress on an enhanced-subsidy deal, what program-integrity measures would you suggest to be paired with a special enrollment period?
  Response: Support program-integrity efforts but prefer implementation before pricing cycles so impacts are reflected in rates; Oscar is prepared to work with CMS and supports integrity measures implemented collaboratively.

• Question from Jessica Tassan (Piper Sandler): Can you quantify cost advantage from narrow networks and what program-integrity impacts did you assume?
  Response: Management declined to quantify specific dollar advantage but noted many peers use narrow networks; program-integrity impacts were incorporated into conservative 2026 pricing assumptions though specifics were not disclosed.

Contradiction Point 1

Operational Efficiencies and SG&A Costs

It involves changes in strategic expectations for operational efficiencies and cost reductions, which are crucial for profitability and investor confidence.

Considering expected member attrition over the next few years, are you confident in achieving the 2027 G&A target? - Michael Hah(Baird)

2025Q3: We actually believe we have more room in our SG&A as we go forward. The AI models we're creating have the potential to streamline operating costs. Of course, we maintain discipline on variable costs to fit the size of our business. - Mark Bertolini(CEO)

At what enrollment level do peers start losing significant market share? Can you explain the $60 million G&A reductions required for 2026 profitability? - Jonathan Yong(UBS Securities)

2025Q2: We've identified roughly $60 million of additional SG&A efficiencies. A portion there involves a reduction in force, and the other part is a reduction in vendor costs. - Richard Scott Blackley(CFO)

Contradiction Point 2

Risk Adjustment Payable and Market Morbidity

It involves changes in assumptions regarding risk adjustment payable and market morbidity, which are critical for financial forecasting and risk management.

Does the September weekly report indicate what portion of the worsening market morbidity trends is attributable to FTR rechecks and removal of duplicate members ahead of Q4? - Michael Hah(Baird)

2025Q3: We think that the drivers of that increase are the same as last quarter. The report captures claims through July, which would not capture the impacts of FTR or dual enrollment churn that happened in the third quarter. - Scott Blackley(CFO)

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2025Q2: The risk adjustment payable increase was due to higher ACA marketplace morbidity, affecting the current year's payable. The prior year's risk adjustment payable did not change significantly. - Richard Scott Blackley(CFO)

Contradiction Point 3

Morbidity Impact on Market and Pricing Strategy

It highlights the discrepancy in the company's approach to managing morbidity and its impact on pricing strategy, which is crucial for financial planning and market competitiveness.

Does the September weekly report indicate how much of the worsening market morbidity shifts were due to FTR rechecks and removal of duplicate members ahead of Q4? - Michael Hah(Baird)

2025Q3: We think that the drivers of that increase are the same as last quarter. The report captures claims through July, which would not capture the impacts of FTR or dual enrollment churn that happened in the third quarter. We've seen about 45% of the people who were part of CMS’s list on FTR or dual enrollments churn. These members have higher risk than our average book. - Scott Blackley(CFO)

How do new vs. retired members impact utilization patterns, and what drove the favorable pharmacy results? - Jonathan Yong(UBS)

2025Q1: Market morbidities continued to increase over the first quarter, driven by COVID and other factors. We continue to have one of the healthiest books in the market, which has now been validated by CMS’s release of market morbidities. We are monitoring the situation closely. - Mark Bertolini(CEO)

Contradiction Point 4

Cost Management and SG&A Efficiency

It involves the company's strategy and ability to manage costs, particularly SG&A expenses, which are critical for profitability and operational efficiency.

Are you still confident in achieving your 2027 G&A target given expected member attrition over the next few years? - Michael Hah(Baird)

2025Q3: We actually believe we have more room in our SG&A as we go forward. The AI models we're creating have the potential to streamline operating costs. Of course, we maintain discipline on variable costs to fit the size of our business. We believe we have plenty of time to adapt our cost structure going forward. - Mark Bertolini(CEO)

What are the drivers of your strong SG&A performance, and how sustainable is this level going forward? - Michael Ha(Baird)

2025Q1: SG&A performance improvement is driven by fixed cost leverage (40%), variable cost efficiencies (15%), broker taxes, and lower fees. Although some quarterly increases are expected, the majority of improvements are sustainable. - Scott Blackley(CFO)