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Date of Call: October 31, 2025
sales of $1,054 million for Q3, up 35% year-over-year. - Growth was driven by strong demand in the infrastructure vertical, particularly in data centers and power utilities, as well as contributions from acquisitions.Organic orders in data centers increased by approximately 65%, driven by large orders for AI data center buildout.The strong growth in data center orders is attributed to the increasing demand for electrical connection and protection solutions in AI infrastructure.
Increased Backlog and Acquisitions:
backlog grew strong double digits sequentially, with acquisitions contributing $139 million to Q3 sales.Acquisitions have performed ahead of expectations, driving significant organic sales growth and supporting the expansion into new markets and product offerings.
Operational Efficiency and Margin Pressure:
Segment income increased 27%, with a return on sales of 20.2%. However, margins were impacted by inflation and acquisition costs.Overall Tone: Positive
Contradiction Point 1
Data Center Order Growth and Visibility
It reflects differing perspectives on the growth and visibility of data center orders, which are crucial for understanding the company's short-term and long-term financial outlook.
What drove the Q1 acceleration? Do you see long-term growth in data centers? Has the lead time remained 9-12 months? Are you expanding modular data center usage? - Joseph Ritchie(Goldman Sachs)
2025Q3: Our data center orders are accelerating. We have some view into 2026, and visibility into 2027 with key customers. - Beth Wozniak(CEO)
Can you clarify the timeline for converting the current backlog and its expected duration, and explain the implications of a major hyperscaler launching a custom liquid cooling platform? - Deane Michael Dray(RBC Capital Markets)
2025Q2: Our backlog has grown due to increasing demand in data centers, particularly with liquid cooling solutions. The backlog extends into 2026, driven by strong orders and our partnership strategy. - Beth A. Wozniak(CEO)
Contradiction Point 2
Organic Growth and Acquisitions
It highlights differing views on the contributions and integration of acquisitions, which are important for assessing the company's growth strategy and financial performance.
Are EPG Avail orders included in organic growth? How do you view the base business and acquisition strategy? - Jeffrey Sprague(Vertical Research Partners)
2025Q3: The 65% order growth is all organic and does not include Avail EPG acquisition. - Beth Wozniak(CEO)
Can you update us on the backlog size and whether Systems Protection will grow organically above Electrical Connections in the second half? - Julian C.H. Mitchell(Barclays Bank PLC)
2025Q2: Our backlog has increased with new acquisitions, particularly in Systems Protection. - Beth A. Wozniak(CEO)
Contradiction Point 3
Operating Margin Expansion
It involves differing statements on the expected timing and trajectory of operating margin expansion, which is critical for investors assessing the company's profitability and financial health.
What are expectations for Q4 operating margin? When will margin expansion resume? Do you have insights on RPO? - Julian Mitchell(Barclays Bank)
2025Q3: We expect margins to improve next year. - Gary Corona(CFO)
How are you passing through tariff costs via price hikes, and can you fully offset these costs with productivity gains? - Jeffrey Todd Sprague(Vertical Research Partners)
2025Q2: We expect to resume accelerating EPS growth in the second half, reflecting healthy pricing, expanding gross margins and operating leverage. - Gary Corona(CFO)
Contradiction Point 4
Operating Margin Expectations
It involves changes in financial forecasts, specifically regarding operating margin expectations, which are critical indicators for investors.
What are expectations for Q4 operating margin? When will margin expansion resume? What insights can you share on RPO? - Julian Mitchell(Barclays)
2025Q3: Q4 margins should be up sequentially and above Q3, excluding EPG. - Gary Corona(CFO)
Will operating margins be down in Q1 and are there differences between the two segments? - Julian Mitchell(Barclays)
2024Q4: Overall, Q1 return on sales will be down slightly due to corporate costs and investments in infrastructure. However, we expect margin expansion overall. - Sara Zawoyski(CFO)
Contradiction Point 5
M&A Strategy and Impact
It involves differing perspectives on the company's M&A strategy and the impact of acquisitions on financial performance, which are crucial for understanding the company's growth strategy and financial outlook.
Is the improved M&A contribution due to demand patterns or productivity? - Vladimir Bystricky(Citigroup)
2025Q3: Avail EPG is performing well. We're seeing more top-line growth and better margins than expected. It's driven by both demand and productivity improvements. - Gary Corona(CFO)
What is the Q1 EPS impact from Trachte and your 2025 guidance? - Scott Graham(Seaport Research Partners)
2024Q4: In addition to the strong contribution from Trachte, we also have an acquisition, Avail from earlier in the year, the benefits of which were fully realized in the quarter. - Sara Zawoyski(CFO)
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