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Date of Call: October 29, 2025
4% increase in orders year-over-year to 3,636 units in Q3, despite a decline in consumer confidence and affordability concerns. - The company achieved an average absorption pace of 3.8, indicating a softening demand environment.60-day closing-ready guarantee to provide homebuyers certainty amid market uncertainties.This strategy, combined with a 100% spec strategy and realtor engagement, helped secure home sales and closings.
Community Count and Growth:
334 communities, a 20% increase year-over-year, contributing to a 5.3-year supply of lots.The company plans to maintain this growth with an additional double-digit increase in community count for 2026.
Margin and Cost Management:
20.1% and adjusted diluted EPS of $1.55 in Q3.3% year-over-year reduction in direct costs per square foot and favorable labor conditions, helped attain these results.Overall Tone: Neutral
Contradiction Point 1
Incentive Impact on Margins
It highlights differing perspectives on the impact of incentives on the company's margins, which are crucial for understanding its financial performance and strategy.
How should we assess the relationship between community count growth and margins in 2026? - Alan Ratner(Zelman & Associates LLC)
2025Q3: Incentives are the primary margin headwind, not new community openings. - Philippe Lord(CEO), Hilla Sferruzza(CFO)
What caused the Q3 gross margin decline? - Michael Jason Rehaut(JPMorgan)
2025Q2: The decline is primarily due to increased incentives, impacting ASP, not cost increases. - Hilla Sferruzza(CFO)
Contradiction Point 2
Community Count and Growth Strategy
It involves differing statements about the company's approach to community count growth and its impact on the business model, which affects strategic planning and expectations.
Can you discuss the impact of your strategy shift on your return profile and inventory turnover improvements? - Alan Ratner(Zelman & Associates LLC)
2025Q3: We plan to expand from our current level to 40% of our annual deliveries by 2028. We ended the quarter with 64 new communities under development, bringing us to over 70 communities under development for 2026, providing a significant opportunity for growth. - Philippe Lord(CEO)
What is the expected growth cadence for community count in the second half? - Trevor Scott Allinson(Wolfe Research)
2025Q2: Cadence is expected to be even between Q3 and Q4. Significant growth is anticipated in the second half, with double-digit growth for the year, though not reaching 20%. Planning continues for double-digit growth in 2026. - Phil Lord(CEO), Hilla Sferruzza(CFO)
Contradiction Point 3
Inventory Turnover Strategy
It involves a shift in strategy regarding inventory turnover, which directly impacts operational efficiency and financial performance.
How will your strategy pivot affect your return profile and inventory turnover? - Alan Ratner(Zelman & Associates LLC)
2025Q3: Inventory turnover has decreased due to the strategy shift and completed spec accumulation. However, opportunities exist to optimize the spec strategy, decrease inventory, and reduce cycle times. Potential reduction in specs per store from 19 to 16. The land acquisition strategy is also being refined to improve efficiency. - Philippe Lord(CEO)
What pricing power is expected based on your guidance midpoint of $410,000 average closing price, given your comments didn’t mention pricing power? - Unidentified Analyst(Zelman & Associates)
2025Q1: Our move-in-ready inventory is meeting customer demand, and we're focused on opening new communities in strong markets. In Q2, we expect to deliver 28% more homes than Q1, and we believe we are well positioned for a strong spring selling season. - Philippe Lord(CEO)
Contradiction Point 4
Impact of Interest Rates on Strategy
It involves differing interpretations of the impact of interest rates on the company's strategy, which are crucial for understanding the company's risk profile and market adaptability.
How will community count growth affect margins in 2026? - Alan Ratner (Zelman & Associates LLC)
2025Q3: A 7% interest rate environment makes achieving margins difficult. We feel that if rates improve, we can balance volume and margins. If rates worsen, we'll need to increase incentives. - Philippe Lord(CEO)
If demand remains stable, are there other levers besides incentives to hit full-year closings guidance? - Michael Rehaut (JPMorgan Chase & Co, Research Division)
2024Q4: We feel comfortable hitting the full year closing guidance based on current market conditions, despite a slower January. Our objective is to stabilize the market conditions, letting rates settle and recover, which could help us reach a 17,000 unit number in 2025. - Philippe Lord(CEO)
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