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Date of Call: March 7, 2025
revenue of $209 million for the third quarter, marking a slight increase from the prior year. - The growth in non-U.S. credit segments, such as emerging markets and Eurobonds, was strong at 10%, while U.S. credit saw a 9% decline in revenue. - The challenging market conditions, including limited volatility and tight spreads, impacted revenue growth in U.S. credit. 
10% increase in block trading ADV across U.S. credit, emerging markets, and Eurobonds in Q3, with October growth reaching 21%.20%, with U.S. high-yield ADV reaching record levels.The adoption of new protocols and workflow tools, such as targeted block trading and portfolio trading, has driven growth in these areas despite competitive challenges.
Dealer-initiated and MIDEX Launch:
18% in Q3, with October seeing an 22% increase, supported by the launch of MIDEX for U.S. credit and Eurobonds.$1.3 billion in matching volume in October, indicating early success.The introduction of MIDEX supports the dealer community's need to exit positions efficiently, contributing to incremental revenue.
Financial Performance and Expense Management:
1% revenue growth with diluted earnings per share of $1.84 in Q3, driven by a $1 million benefit from foreign currency fluctuations.3%, primarily due to higher employee compensation and technology costs, but the company reconfirmed its full-year expense guidance.Overall Tone: Neutral
Contradiction Point 1
Market Share Trends in U.S. High-Grade
It reflects differing perspectives on the market share trends in U.S. high-grade bonds, which impacts understanding of the company's competitive positioning and growth trajectory.
Can you discuss the pipeline for adding dealers, interactions with PT, and progress on share gains for MIDEX U.S.? While new product uptake is strong, why have overall share gains remained limited? - Chris Allen(Citi)
2025Q3: In the U.S. high-grade market, our share is down to around 3%. They are a very good hint that we have a lot of room to grow our share. We're not discouraged by the fact that we're down at this point in time. - Chris Concannon(CEO)
Can you provide details on progress of new initiatives, client adoption, and the rest-of-year outlook? How does Q2 progress compare to July volumes, particularly in U.S. high-grade market share? - Christopher John Allen(Citi)
2025Q2: In the U.S. high-grade market, our share is down to about 3% on a trailing 12-month basis. This level is considerably lower than the 6.6% share we reported at the end of last year. The market share decline was driven by large blocks moving to phone and chat. - Christopher Robert Concannon(CEO & Director)
Contradiction Point 2
Impact of Low Volatility on Portfolio Trading
It involves differing views on the impact of low volatility on portfolio trading activities, which affects understanding of the company's strategic positioning in evolving market conditions.
On the MIDEX U.S. launch, initial volumes are strong. Can you update us on the dealer expansion pipeline, its integration with PT, and how overall market share gains are progressing despite strong adoption of new offerings? - Chris Allen(Citi)
2025Q3: We've also seen good uptake of new offerings in the portfolio trading realm. But overall share gains in high-grade have been elusive. This is a function of the outsized impacts of large blocks of business shifting to phone and chat. - Chris Concannon(CEO)
How are clients using portfolio trading (PT) differently, especially during low volatility periods? - Simon Alistair Vaughan Clinch(Redburn)
2025Q2: PT is typically more used during low volatility periods. However, we've seen some PT activity during high volatility, driven by client demand for liquidity and cash. We continue to grow our PT market share and are enhancing our tools with pre-trade analytics and dealer-client portfolio showcasing. - Christopher Robert Concannon(CEO & Director)
Contradiction Point 3
Portfolio Trading Expansion and Market Share
It involves differing statements about the company's portfolio trading market share and its strategic importance to the overall business.
What's driving the shift in trade size distribution between block and smaller trades in credit volumes? - Simon Clinch(Rothschild)
2025Q3: Portfolio trading is the fastest-growing segment with a market share of 27% in the first quarter. We continue to expand our lead in portfolio trading, which now represents 30% of our total credit trading volume. - Chris Concannon(CEO)
Can you update us on high-grade fee capture in Q1 and April metrics, and what caused the YoY and QoQ declines? - Kyle Voigt(KBW)
2025Q1: Our fee capture has been affected by growth in portfolio trading and dealer-to-dealer markets, which have lower capture rates. - Ilene Fiszel Bieler(CFO)
Contradiction Point 4
Block Trading Growth and Challenges
It highlights differing perspectives on the growth and challenges in block trading, which is a significant strategic focus for the company.
Can you explain U.S. block trading and discuss its challenges and growth expectations? - Alex Cram(UBS)
2025Q3: Block trading is our biggest opportunity. U.S. growth is not at desired levels but improving. - Chris Concannon(CEO)
Can you discuss the block trading launch in the US and the impact of dealers on block penetration success? - Chris Allen(Citi)
2024Q4: Block trading is an area where we are very pleased with the progress we've made in the EMEA region. Our European market share in block trading has increased to 20% from just over 10% in Q1 of 2022. - Christopher Concannon(CEO)
Contradiction Point 5
Portfolio Trading and Market Share in High-Yield
It addresses the company's growth strategies and market share in high-yield portfolio trading, which is a critical revenue stream.
What is the opportunity size for closing auctions and their potential market share in the credit market? - Patrick Moley(Piper Sandler)
2025Q3: Portfolio trading has grown even in volatility. - Chris Concannon(CEO)
Can you explain the decline in the high-yield business's market share from 17-18% to 12%? - Kyle Voigt(KBW)
2024Q4: Portfolio trading also has increased its share of the high-yield market, growing from 16% in Q1 to 18% in Q3. - Christopher Concannon(CEO)
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