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15.7% year-on-year in Q4 2025, with awards increasing by approximately 61%.
The incident necessitated significant overtime, third-party costs, and customer service recovery efforts, but effective responses were made to mitigate the impact.
RMS Revenue and Margin Improvement:
1%, with overall operating loss decreasing by $6.4 million compared to the prior year.Margin improvement in the RMS segment was driven by site consolidation efforts, reducing operating expenses and benefiting from increased NHP product and service revenue.
Operating Cash Flow and Debt Refinancing:
$14.3 million of cash from operations in Q4 2025, increasing the cash balance to $21.7 million.
Overall Tone: Positive
Contradiction Point 1
Cybersecurity Incident Impact
It involves the financial impact of a cybersecurity incident, which could influence investor perceptions of operational risks and financial performance.
Can you break down the additional expenses in the model and explain how the quarter would have performed without the cybersecurity expenses? - Frank Takkinen(Lake Street Capital Markets)
2025Q4: Major headwind was the cybersecurity incident, with impacts like overtime, third-party costs, and potential customer hesitation. The impact is difficult to quantify but was managed effectively. - Bob Leasure(CEO)
Are you now free to import from Cambodia? How does this impact NHP market dynamics? - David Howard Windley(Jefferies)
2025Q3: The DOJ has not prohibited imports from Cambodia, and the company is not importing from there currently, focusing on other Asian sources. While the option remains open, there are no immediate plans to change current practices due to stability in pricing and supply. - Robert W. Leasure(CEO)
Contradiction Point 2
Discovery Segment Performance
It highlights differing perspectives on the performance and growth trajectory of the Discovery segment, which is a key driver of the company's financials.
Have you noticed any quarter-to-date trends in ordering patterns? Can you provide an update on seasonality effects? - Frank Takkinen(Lake Street Capital Markets)
2025Q4: The last six months saw a 12.5% DSA revenue increase and a 37% awards increase over nine months. Focus remains on cost reductions and DSA revenue growth. - Bob Leasure(CEO)
Can you clarify the composition of current bookings compared to your overall book of business? - David Howard Windley(Jefferies)
2025Q3: There has been a significant increase in Discovery bookings, up 31%, with the revenue not yet catching up to these bookings. The Discovery segment, with its fixed costs, sees margins improve quickly with increased sales. - Robert W. Leasure(CEO)
Contradiction Point 3
DSA Revenue Growth and Customer Base
It involves differing statements about customer hesitance and the quoting activity, which could impact revenue projections and investor expectations.
Are there any quarter-to-date trends related to ordering patterns and could you provide an update on seasonality? - Frank Takkinen(Lake Street Capital Markets)
2025Q4: We still are experiencing some hesitation from customers with regard to the placing of orders for new studies. - Bob Leasure(CEO)
How has demand in Q3 compared to Q2? - Matt Hewitt(Craig-Hallum Capital Group)
2025Q2: We have sales to the government and universities, but the impact is not significant at this point. We will continue to monitor the situation. - Bob Leasure(CEO)
Contradiction Point 4
Cybersecurity Incident Impact
It highlights differing levels of impact and management of the cybersecurity incident, which could affect financial expectations and operational assessments.
Can you break down the additional expenses in the model and explain how the quarter would have performed without the additional cybersecurity costs? - Frank Takkinen(Lake Street Capital Markets)
2025Q4: Major headwind was the cybersecurity incident, with impacts like overtime, third-party costs, and potential customer hesitation. The impact is difficult to quantify but was managed effectively. - Bob Leasure(CEO)
Were there one-time events affecting cancellations or book-to-bill this quarter? - Nelson Cox(Lake Street Capital Markets)
2025Q2: We have seen a decrease in business coming in through our quotes from the government and research institutions largely due to a cyber security breach that we experienced. - Bob Leasure(CEO)
Contradiction Point 5
RMS Segment Performance and Margins
It highlights differing perspectives on the performance and margin improvements of the RMS segment, which could affect strategic decisions and financial expectations.
How did the cyber event impact the RMS segment compared to DSA, and how is the RMS business performing? - David Windley(Jefferies)
2025Q4: RMS margin improves with site reductions in small animal and diet businesses. NHP segment margins vary based on market demands and costs. Overall, RMS is performing well with some stable pricing across segments. - Bob Leasure(CEO)
What are the main goals of the revised optimization plans for the RMS business? - Matt Hewitt(Craig-Hallum Capital Group)
2025Q2: We have implemented various initiatives to improve operational efficiency, reduce costs and enhance profitability, including site consolidations and right-sizing. - Bob Leasure(CEO)
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