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Date of Call: December 3, 2025
$51.6 million, up 15.7% year-on-year, with DSA awards increasing approximately 61%.
The growth in DSA revenue and awards was driven by increased demand for discovery and translational science services, biotherapeutics, general toxicology services, and surgical services.
Cybersecurity Incident Impact:
The incident caused additional expenses and overtime, and potentially impacted award issuance due to organizational focus on recovery.
Revenue and Segment Performance:
$138.1 million, up 5.9% year-on-year.The increase was primarily driven by a $7.1 million increase within the DSA segment, with RMS revenue slightly ahead by approximately 1%.
RMS Site Consolidation and Cost Reduction:
60% of facilities over the last 3 years.
Overall Tone: Positive
Contradiction Point 1
Cancellation and Bookings Trends
It involves differing perceptions of the trend in cancellations and new bookings, which impact revenue projections and operational efficiency.
What were the headwinds in the quarter and what would revenue have been without them? Are there any quarter-to-date trends you're comfortable sharing? - Frank Takkinen (Lake Street Capital Markets, LLC, Research Division)
2025Q4: The major headwind was the cybersecurity incident in August. It caused overtime, communication costs, and some studies had to be redone. It's hard to quantify the intangible costs, but the team responded well. The quoting and awards trends are moving forward nicely, and we see positive trends in quoting activity for the last 2 months. - Robert Leasure(CEO)
Do you expect cancellations or negative change orders to decline in the second half of this year or fiscal year 2026? - Matthew Gregory Hewitt (Craig-Hallum Capital Group)
2025Q3: We had a very strong quarter in new bookings and sales growth, despite the cancellations. Our organization is managing through this, and we've increased our sales team. We'll continue to expect higher gross bookings to offset cancellations. - Robert W. Leasure(CEO)
Contradiction Point 2
FDA Guidance on Animal Models
It involves differing interpretations of the impact of FDA guidance on animal models, which could affect client decision-making and service demand.
How does the FDA's new guidance on reducing animal models affect your business, especially regarding monoclonal antibodies? - Matthew Hewitt (Craig-Hallum Capital Group LLC, Research Division)
2025Q4: Our revenue related to monoclonal antibodies is minimal. We're not worried about this guidance impacting us. The FDA guidance is just that, guidance, and clients will still decide based on their needs. We do see some quoting activity, so no significant impact is expected. - Robert Leasure(CEO)
What is the outlook for pharma budgets next year, and will they remain flat or increase? - Matthew Gregory Hewitt (Craig-Hallum Capital Group)
2025Q3: We're seeing a substantial increase in quoting and bookings, with some bookings further out. We're encouraged with the reoccurring customer base and increased quoting activity. - Robert W. Leasure(CEO)
Contradiction Point 3
Impact of Cybersecurity Incident
It highlights differing statements about the impact of a major cybersecurity incident on the company's operations and financial performance.
What were the key headwinds in the quarter and what revenue would have been without them? Are there any quarter-to-date trends you can share? - Frank Takkinen (Lake Street Capital Markets, LLC, Research Division)
2025Q4: The major headwind was the cybersecurity incident in August. It caused overtime, communication costs, and some studies had to be redone. It's hard to quantify the intangible costs, but the team responded well. - Robert Leasure (CEO)
How have quoting and demand trends started in Q3 compared to Q2? - Matt Hewitt (Craig-Hallum Capital Group)
2025Q2: We've had a great quarter in terms of operational performance - Bob Leasure (CEO)
Contradiction Point 4
NHP Inventory and Pricing
It involves changes in the company's approach to managing non-human primate (NHP) inventory and pricing strategies, which directly impact financial projections and revenue expectations.
How did the cyber event costs affect the RMS segment compared to DSA? What are the key drivers of RMS margins? - David Windley (Jefferies LLC, Research Division)
2025Q4: We expect our NHP margin to improve as we are gaining pricing and we expect some margin expansion in the NHP segment. - Robert Leasure(CEO)
Can you quantify the impact of NHP gross margins for the recent quarter and provide a future outlook? - Frank Takkinen (Lake Street Capital Markets)
2024Q4: The gross margin in NHPs was approximately half of what we would normally achieve. It was important to move higher-cost inventory, and despite some margin pressure, demand was strong. - Robert Leasure(CEO)
Contradiction Point 5
DSA Pricing Pressure
It concerns the underlying reasons for pricing pressure in the DSA business, which affects the company's revenue and profit margins.
What are your expectations for pharma budgets next year, and do you expect them to remain flat or increase? - Matthew Hewitt (Craig-Hallum Capital Group LLC, Research Division)
2025Q4: Pricing pressure is mainly in the DSA business, driven by NHP costs and margin compression. - Robert Leasure(CEO)
How are you managing pricing pressures in your DSA business? - Matthew Hewitt (Craig-Hallum)
2024Q4: Pricing pressure is mainly in the DSA business, driven by NHP costs and margin compression. - Robert Leasure(CEO)
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