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Date of Call: October 30, 2025
core earnings per share of $0.35, showing a 55% increase from the previous year.The company's core net interest margin expanded by 10 basis points to 2.62%. This growth was driven by the asset repricing strategy and loan repricing opportunities scheduled for 2026 and 2027.
Deposit Growth and Cost Management:
noninterest-bearing deposits increased by 7.2% sequentially and 5.7% year-over-year.The strategic initiative to grow core relationships and revamped incentive plans for noninterest-bearing deposits contributed significantly to this growth. Additionally, the company reduced deposit rates by 20 to 25 basis points for $1.8 billion of deposits, lowering funding costs.
Credit Discipline and Asset Quality:
7 basis points, improving from 15 basis points in the previous quarter. Nonperforming assets remained at 70 basis points of total assets.The company's strong credit discipline, conservative underwriting standards, and low-risk credit profile contributed to stable credit metrics and reduced default rates.
Loan Growth and Portfolio Strategy:
$59 million in back-to-back swap loans closing by year-end.Overall Tone: Positive
Contradiction Point 1
Deposit Repricing and Interest Rate Sensitivity
It involves conflicting expectations regarding the impact of interest rate changes on net interest margins, which is crucial for assessing the bank's financial performance and strategy.
Will the September rate cut's deposit beta mirror yesterday's? - Stephen Moss (Raymond James & Associates, Inc., Research Division)
2025Q3: A return to a more normal curve is positive for us. A 25 basis point rate cut and a steepening yield curve would lead to a couple of basis points improvement in the net interest margin. - John R. Buran(President, CEO & Director)
Can you clarify your interest rate sensitivity and how a 25-basis-point rate cut and a steepening yield curve would impact your margin? - Mark Thomas Fitzgibbon (Piper Sandler)
2025Q2: There is limited opportunity to reduce funding costs until the Fed acts. Most of the help in expanding the net interest margin will come from loan repricing, with limited support from the liability side until the Fed moves. - John R. Buran(President, CEO & Director)
Contradiction Point 2
Stock Buybacks and Capital Allocation
It reflects differing opinions on the appropriateness of stock buybacks, which can influence investor expectations and capital allocation strategy.
Why not consider stock buybacks given the discount to tangible book value? - Mark Fitzgibbon (Piper Sandler & Co., Research Division)
2025Q3: We're not currently considering share buybacks. Our priority remains to build capital further and maintain our dividend. We plan to focus on profitable growth and capital strength before considering repurchases. - Susan K. Cullen(Senior EVP, Treasurer & CFO)
Given your stock trades at 58% of tangible book value, are you considering share buybacks in H2? - Mark Thomas Fitzgibbon (Piper Sandler)
2025Q2: We're not currently considering share buybacks. Our priority remains to build capital further and maintain our dividend. We plan to focus on profitable growth and capital strength before considering repurchases. - Susan K. Cullen(Senior EVP, Treasurer & CFO)
Contradiction Point 3
Deposit Beta and Rate Sensitivity
It involves differences in expectations regarding the bank's deposit beta and liability sensitivity, which directly affect the bank's interest rate risk management and earnings projections.
What is the deposit beta for nonmaturity deposits? - David Konrad(Keefe, Bruyette, & Woods, Inc.)
2025Q3: The deposit beta is expected to closely mirror the Fed's actions. In late September, rates were reduced by 20 to 25 basis points on a $1.8 billion deposit portfolio. - Susan Cullen(CFO)
How should we assess interest rate sensitivity on the liability side of the balance sheet in the current environment, and what rate do you expect to achieve if a 1% liability is attainable? - Chris O'Connell(KBW)
2025Q1: We do have a liability-sensitive rate book that we're expecting to go to 1%. And we do have a lock-in for the next quarter that will be a little bit higher than 1% on our rates. - Susan Cullen(CFO)
Contradiction Point 4
Interest Rate Sensitivity Positioning
It involves the company's interest rate sensitivity positioning, which is crucial for managing risk and optimizing financial performance.
Is your balance sheet liability-sensitive? - David Konrad (Keefe, Bruyette, & Woods, Inc., Research Division)
2025Q3: The balance sheet is slightly liability sensitive, but it has been moved more towards a neutral position to capture potential benefits. - Susan Cullen(CFO)
How do you plan to manage interest rate sensitivity in the future? Will shorter-duration remaining swaps increase liability sensitivity, and how do you manage the balance sheet mix? - Steve Moss (Raymond James & Associates, Inc., Research Division)
2024Q4: We're largely neutral. So we think we can manage either movements up or movements down without significant issues. - John Buran(CEO)
Contradiction Point 5
Stock Buybacks and Capital Allocation
It involves differing views on the potential for stock buybacks, which directly impacts investor expectations on capital allocation and shareholder returns.
Why not consider stock buybacks given the discount to tangible book value? - Mark Fitzgibbon(Piper Sandler & Co.)
2025Q3: Our focus remains on maintaining our dividend and having capital ready to support our portfolio growth opportunities. - John Buran(CEO)
How should we think about the potential for buybacks given the stock's discount and Q2 results/capital ratios? - Mark Fitzgibbon(Piper Sandler)
2025Q1: It is something we are taking a hard look at. We will review the financials at the end of the year and make a decision based on what the financials are and what our capital needs are for growth. - John Buran(CEO)
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