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Date of Call: October 30, 2025
5.5% to $1.180 billion, with a gross margin rate of 43.4%.The disciplined execution of tariff mitigation strategies enabled healthy merchandising price gaps and protected profitability amid soft demand.
Comparable Store Sales and Market Pressures:
1.2%, with a continued sequential decline through September.Persistent housing market pressures and struggling consumer demand for hard surface flooring contributed to sustained softness in sales.
New Store Expansion and Distribution Center Growth:
Overall Tone: Neutral
Contradiction Point 1
Store Performance and New Store Productivity
It involves differing perspectives on the performance of new stores and the impact of market conditions on productivity, which are crucial for understanding the company's growth strategy.
How do you address concerns about the timing of your transition affecting a potential recovery or core store growth? - Christopher Horvers
2025Q3: New store productivity is tracking at the low end of our expectations with the average ticket being less than we anticipated. - Thomas Taylor(CEO)
Will you maintain 20-30 store openings per year, as in previous years? - Peter Jacob Keith
2025Q2: We are very pleased with the productivity of stores that we've opened in the last 2 years. Store openings in fiscal 2023 produced a 1-year return on investment of 27% and a 3-year return on investment of 65%. - Thomas Taylor(CEO)
Contradiction Point 2
Economic Outlook and Market Conditions
It reflects differing expectations regarding economic conditions and their impact on the industry, which are essential for assessing the company's outlook and strategic planning.
How will the business perform with 3% to 4% existing home sales next year? - Christopher Horvers
2025Q3: We believe if existing home sales are positive, we have the potential to be positive. We're opening new stores, which helps on the waterfall. - Thomas Taylor(CEO)
What is your outlook for fiscal 2026 given the consensus estimate, and how do macroeconomic factors affect your guidance? - Simeon Ari Gutman
2025Q2: Our guidance assumes that existing home sales will improve by 1% to 3% in fiscal 2026 and that we are able to open 20 new stores. - Bryan H. Langley(CFO)
Contradiction Point 3
Pricing Strategy and Consumer Behavior
It involves differing perspectives on the impact of pricing strategy on consumer behavior, which is critical for understanding the company's competitive positioning and market strategy.
Can you quantify price changes and consumer response to them? - Seth Sigman
2025Q3: We've taken modest price increases, and better products perform well. Consumers are buying more expensive products despite doing less square footage. - Thomas Taylor(CEO)
How much of the ticket price increase was due to tariff-driven price hikes versus upgrades to premium products? How is pricing strategy adjusted annually considering inventory cycles? - Barath Rao
2025Q2: Much of the benefit in average ticket came from mix, especially from wood, and some price changes. - Thomas V. Taylor(CEO)
Contradiction Point 4
Slowdown in New Store Performance and Industry Conditions
It involves differing explanations for the slowdown in new store performance, which can impact investor perceptions of the company's growth prospects and industry conditions.
What factors are causing the slowdown in new store performance? - Uriel Zachary Abraham (Morgan Stanley, Research Division)
2025Q3: The slowdown is more related to the contracting market. We're seeing pressure across retailers and manufacturers, and our performance is consistent with the industry. - Thomas Taylor(CEO)
Was the acceleration in the first month of the quarter driven by the tariff announcement? - Christopher Horvers (JPMorgan Chase & Co., Research Division)
2025Q1: We did continue to see in Q1 some pressure from the homebuilder side. It started coming in December. And we saw that pressure continue into Q1. And that is why we're working on those contract agreements. - Tom Taylor(CEO)
Contradiction Point 5
Labor Inflation and Industry Trends
It involves differing statements about the impact of labor inflation on the industry and the company's operations, which can influence investor views on cost management and industry trends.
What is the current trend in labor inflation among industry tradespeople? - Jonathan Matuszewski (Jefferies LLC, Research Division)
2025Q3: We're not experiencing labor inflation. Installer costs are likely reduced due to contractors keeping a book of business. There may be regional variations, but overall, it's not affecting us. - Thomas Taylor(CEO)
Can you clarify how the tariff impact is reflected in guidance and your approach to pricing and margin impacts? - Seth Sigman (Barclays Bank PLC, Research Division)
2025Q1: We expect the inflation to kick in at some point in '25, but we're not seeing it today. We have the power within our cost structure, we think, to manage it. - Tom Taylor(CEO)
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