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Date of Call: Jan 23, 2026
Financial Performance and Growth Strategy:
$99.5 million or $0.46 per diluted share for Q4 2025, with operating earnings increasing 28% in the quarter.Loan Growth and Commercial Lending:
25% linked quarter, primarily due to the addition of $4.5 billion from HarborOne, with organic loan growth excluding the merger impact being $1 billion or 5.6% for the full year.Wealth Management and Assets Under Management:
$10.1 billion, including assets under management of $9.6 billion, driven by market appreciation and positive net flows.Capital Management and Shareholder Returns:
3.1 million shares for $55.4 million in Q4, representing 26% of the total authorization announced in October.13.2%.Deposit Growth and Cost Management:
21% from Q3, largely due to the addition of $4.3 billion from HarborOne, and ended the quarter at $25.5 billion.45%-50% relative to Fed actions.
Overall Tone: Positive
Contradiction Point 1
Capital Allocation and Mergers & Acquisitions Outlook
Contradiction on strategic focus between organic growth and potential acquisitions, impacting long-term growth strategy perception.
Could you explain the rationale behind the decision not to pursue acquisitions, as mentioned in the outlook section on page 20, last bullet? - Laurie Hunsicker (Seaport Research Partners)
2025Q4: The company is entirely focused on organic growth... No plans for additional mergers in the near term. - Denis Sheahan(CEO)
Any comments on the slide presentation from Cambridge Trust? - Mark Fitzgibbon (Piper Sandler & Co.)
2025Q3: The focus is squarely on executing the strategy... not on commenting on specific external disclosures. - Denis Sheahan(CEO)
Contradiction Point 2
Net Interest Margin (NIM) Expansion Outlook
Contradiction on the drivers and certainty of margin expansion, affecting financial performance expectations.
Will core margin remain flat in the near term as the company focuses on deposit growth and retaining Harbor One deposits, with expansion expected later in the year? - Freddie Strickland (Hovde)
2025Q4: The margin forecast is for the core margin to be relatively flat initially, then ramp up marginally each quarter, accelerating in the back half of the year. - David Rosato(CFO)
Will the margin remain stable in Q4 and increase into 2026, or will competitive deposit pressures negatively impact it? - Damon Del Monte (Keefe, Bruyette, & Woods, Inc.)
2025Q3: The two key drivers are: 1) Net discount accretion is a wildcard... 2) Deposit costs face competitive pressure... For the full year, the original margin expansion outlook from April remains valid. - R. Rosato(CFO)
Contradiction Point 3
Outlook for Non-Performing Loans (NPLs) and Credit Trends
Contradiction on whether credit trends are stable or require a more conservative provision, impacting risk assessment and capital requirements.
Why is the provision of $30 million-$40 million higher than this year's realized amount, and is it due to softness? - Damon Delmonte (KBW)
2025Q4: The provision guidance is similar to last year, and the company hopes to outperform it. There is no material shift or concern in credit trends; the increase is based on a conservative outlook, not on any new negative credit signals. - David Rosato(CFO) and Denis Sheahan(CEO)
Will there be more securities portfolio restructurings in upcoming quarters, excluding HarborOne-related actions? What caused the ~$40 million decrease in NPLs this quarter: loan sales or payoffs? Are you open to expanding beyond Rhode Island, such as into Connecticut or New York, following the HarborOne deal? - Mark Fitzgibbon (Piper Sandler)
2025Q2: The NPL reduction was driven by the Managed Asset Group resolving 5 credits through payoffs, not sales. - R. Rosato(CFO)
Contradiction Point 4
Strategy Regarding Securities Portfolio Restructuring and Capital Allocation
Contradiction on the priority of using capital for buybacks versus potential securities restructuring, affecting shareholder returns and capital management strategy.
What led to the decision not to pursue acquisitions? - Laurie Hunsicker (Seaport Research Partners)
2025Q4: The company is entirely focused on organic growth within its existing footprint... Returning excess capital to shareholders via share repurchases is seen as the best use of capital. - Denis Sheahan(CEO)
Are further securities portfolio restructurings (excluding HarborOne) expected in upcoming quarters, what caused the ~$40 million NPL decline (loan sales/payoffs), and is expansion beyond Rhode Island (e.g., Connecticut, New York) under consideration post-HarborOne deal? - Mark Fitzgibbon (Piper Sandler)
2025Q2: A future securities restructuring is possible but is on the back burner due to the merger and the expiring current authorization. Priority is on share buybacks post-merger. - R. Rosato(CFO)
Contradiction Point 5
Share Repurchase Strategy During Merger Process
Contradiction on whether company will be active in buying back shares during the merger process, impacting shareholder perception and stock dynamics.
Can you explain the rationale behind the decision not to pursue acquisitions mentioned in the latest report? - Laurie Hunsicker (Seaport Research Partners)
2025Q4: The company is entirely focused on organic growth... Returning excess capital to shareholders via share repurchases is seen as the best use of capital. - Denis Sheahan(CEO)
Will the company continue to actively support the shares or pause due to the ongoing deal completion? - Damon Del Monte (KBW)
2025Q1: The company will be out of the market since it will be using an equity component in consideration at least until after HarborOne's shareholder approval. - R. Rosato(CFO)
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