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Date of Call: October 23, 2025
$248 million.$174 million from $132 million a year ago, with total sales of $1 billion.The growth was driven by robust demand for fats and proteins, exceptional execution across operations, and solid marketing strategies.
Renewable Fuel Segment Challenges:
$3 million, a significant decline from the positive $39 million in the previous year.Uncertainty around policy delays, including the RVO and small refinery exemptions, also impacted the renewables market.
Regulatory and Policy Uncertainty:
Clarity on the RVO ruling is expected to enhance DGD's earnings potential.
Debt Management and Financial Strategy:
$4.01 billion, despite contributions to DGD and earn-out payments.Overall Tone: Positive
Contradiction Point 1
RIN Policy and Market Dynamics
It involves changes in expectations regarding RIN policy and market dynamics, which are critical for Darling Ingredients' pricing and competitive strategy.
Can you outline the pros and cons of RIN policy protectionism on the feed side? - Conor Fitzpatrick (BofA Securities, Research Division)
2025Q3: We are not sure if foreign feedstocks will face penalties, impacting the overall supply and demand for fats and oils in North America. The picture remains uncertain until we know how penalized foreign feedstocks will be. - Robert Day(CFO)
What are the policy benefits of the revised RVO, 50% RINs for foreign feedstock, and no PTC on imported RD for Darling Ingredients? - Manav Gupta (UBS Investment Bank)
2025Q2: This will result in a more domestic-oriented market. We expect a drop in imported raw material. Our focus is on maximizing U.S. fat production for the RD market. The policy changes are supportive of U.S. or North American fat values, which benefits Darling. The 50% RIN policy dynamic, if it holds, could eliminate access to foreign feedstocks, but the positive impacts on U.S. fat pricing outweigh this. - Matthew J. Jansen, Robert W. Day
Contradiction Point 2
DGD Margins and Market Conditions
It involves differing perspectives on DGD margins and market conditions, impacting financial expectations and strategic focus.
Will a rebound in waste fat prices be necessary for Q4 to match Q3's performance? - Thomas Palmer (JPMorgan Chase & Co, Research Division)
2025Q3: If prices do not rebound, we are still looking for a similar range for the business as we have a fairly narrow range for the core ingredients. We expect DGD margins to improve, and SAF margins are better than classic renewable diesel. - Randall Stuewe(CEO)
How does the $1/gal cap on SAF affect margins compared to RD? - Derrick Lee Whitfield (Texas Capital Securities)
2025Q2: Our strategy remains flexible to produce RD or SAF in line with market conditions. SAF benefits from a better and stable margin profile, which we believe will become even better as we move forward. - Matthew J. Jansen
Contradiction Point 3
RVO Clarity and Timeline
It involves the anticipation of clarity on regulatory items like RVO, exemptions, and reallocations, which directly impacts business strategy and planning.
What is the expected timeline for clarity on RVO, exemptions, and reallocations? - Thomas Palmer (JPMorgan Chase & Co, Research Division)
2025Q3: We are optimistic that with the government shutdown, we expect some clarity by the end of the year. The EPA is working on proposals, and the comment period closing or submission to the Office of Management and Budget is expected by December. - Robert Day(CFO)
Do you have clarity on when RVO discussions might be resolved and how they relate to the guidance? - Thomas Palmer (Citi Group)
2025Q1: We expect to see something out of D.C. in the next 45-60 days, but it's not exact. The discussions are clear and constructive, with broad alignment on what should happen. - Randall Stuewe(CEO)
Contradiction Point 4
RIN Values and Renewable Diesel Capacity
It involves the expected RIN values needed for RIN capacity to restart, which impacts the business outlook and production plans.
Would a facility shutdown increase the attractiveness of the RIN balance? - Manav Gupta (UBS Investment Bank, Research Division)
2025Q3: RIN values need to rise to $1.50 to $1.55 for capacity to restart, and Darling remains optimistic about RIN values improving. - Robert Day(CFO)
You need about $250 million in EBITDA from the renewable diesel business to meet your EBITDA guidance. What are your expectations beyond the PTC, and what factors could help achieve the remaining $250 million? - Manav Gupta (UBS)
2025Q1: RIN values need to rise to $1.70 to $1.75 for capacity to restart. - Robert Day(CFO)
Contradiction Point 5
DGD Margins and Feedstock Mix
It involves the expected impact of feedstock mix changes on DGD margins, which affects financial performance and strategic decision-making.
Has DGD increased its use of vegetable oil? - Matthew Blair (Tudor, Pickering, Holt & Co. Securities, LLC, Research Division)
2025Q3: DGD hasn't shifted significantly. Our best margins are on UCO and animal fats, and we're reliant on Darling's supply. Randy Stuewe: We've redomesticated our supply chain, reducing reliance on foreign feedstocks. - Robert Day(CFO), Randall Stuewe(CEO)
2025Q1: We think our margins get better based on the type of mix, and it's a reflection of -- which is about 22%, 23% of our mix. Randy Stuewe: We're seeing some value as we're doing more animal fats. Some of the vegetable oil has been more expensive. - Matthew Jansen(CFO), Randall Stuewe(CEO)
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