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Date of Call: November 6, 2025
Growth was driven by customer wins and redesigns incorporating advanced micro-optic technology, leading to increased demand.

**U.S. Currency Business Outlook:
This growth is attributed to increased demand for notes containing advanced security features, including the new $10 bill.
**Authentication Business Integration:
This transition is part of a broader strategy to simplify the product offering and improve operational efficiency.
**Antares Vision Acquisition:
The acquisition aligns with the company's strategy to diversify its portfolio and target markets with secular tailwinds.
**CPI Segment Challenges and Service Growth:
4% decline in sales, primarily due to softness in vending, while the gaming segment showed strong double-digit growth. 
Overall Tone: Positive
Contradiction Point 1
CPI Growth Expectations
It involves differing expectations for the CPI segment's growth, which is crucial for understanding the company's financial performance and strategic focus.
Why isn't USD's high single-digit growth reflected in a stronger organic outlook for SAT by 2026? - [Matt Summerville](D.A. Davidson)
2025Q3: The CPI segment grew 6% organically in Q3, primarily driven by the strong performance in gaming, which grew 13% organically. - [Aaron Saak](CEO)
Could you summarize the key CPI verticals' performance and your outlook for CPI returning to sustained positive organic growth? - [Matt Summerville](D.A. Davidson)
2025Q2: Gaming is expected to have a strong double-digit growth. - [Aaron Saak](CEO)
Contradiction Point 2
Authentication Segment Performance
It involves differing expectations and performance metrics for the authentication segment, which is an important component of the company's strategic growth plans.
Can you explain how the upgrade to micro-optics for De La Rue customers works and the opportunity it presents? - [Bob Labick](CJS Securities)
2025Q3: The authentication business is on track to achieve high teens in Q4 and nearly 20% operating profit for 2023, with synergies ahead of schedule. - [Aaron Saak](CEO)
How does the authentication division impact EPS accretion in 2026 versus 2025? - [Damian Karas](UBS)
2025Q2: The authentication business is expected to reach an OP margin of 20% by the end of 2026, up from low teens currently. - [Aaron Saak](CEO)
Contradiction Point 3
Currency Sales Outlook and Impact of Tariffs
It involves differing perspectives on the impact of international currency sales and the influence of tariffs, which can significantly affect financial performance and strategic decisions.
Why doesn't SAT's high single-digit USD growth lead to a stronger organic outlook in 2026? - [Matt Summerville](D.A. Davidson)
2025Q3: International currency sales were up 11% in Q3. This was much better than we expected. - [Aaron Saak](CEO)
What drove the SAT sales guidance for the year, and how are you factoring in potential tariff impacts? - [Damian Karas](UBS)
2024Q4: On currency, we're also down a bit more than we expected in the quarter, due to international production delays and of course, U.S. currency-related challenges. - [Christina Cristiano](CFO)
Contradiction Point 4
Currency Business Growth Expectations
It involves differing expectations for the growth and performance of the currency business, which is a significant part of the company's revenue.
Why hasn’t strong USD growth justified improved organic growth for SAT by 2026? - [Matt Summerville](D.A. Davidson)
2025Q3: We expect full-year 2025 growth in the high single digits from the U.S. currency business and even stronger growth from international currency sales. - [Christina Cristiano](CFO)
Can you provide a breakdown of growth rates across the four major end markets served by CPI? How is the U.S. Currency business performing vs. expectations in Q1, and what's the outlook for the remainder of the year? - [Matt Summerville](D.A. Davidson)
2025Q1: We expect U.S. currency and international currency growth each to be in the mid-single digits for 2025. - [Christina Cristiano](CFO)
Contradiction Point 5
Vending Business Performance and Market Dynamics
It highlights contrasting views on the performance and market dynamics of the vending business, which is crucial for revenue forecasting and strategic planning.
Can you clarify the delta versus expectations in vending? Is this an indicator of a larger trend or normal cyclical fluctuations? - [Bob Labick](CJS Securities)
2025Q3: The vending business experienced ongoing order softness post-price increases due to tariffs, with a decline in the high single digits in Q3. - [Aaron Saak](CEO)
What factors support a sustained gaming improvement in 2025's second half? And how should we model Q1 currency decline magnitude? - [Matt Summerville](D.A. Davidson)
2024Q4: Vending was a bit better than we had expected, but still weak. The market is pretty soft, a lot of the volume is still coming from the same customer pool that we've been relying on for a long time. We've got low double-digit declines in vending orders for the quarter. - [Aaron Saak](CEO)
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