Columbia Banking System's Q3 2025: Contradictions Emerge on Loan Growth, Deposit Drivers, NIM, M&A Strategy, and Deposit Repricing

Date of Call: None provided

Financials Results

• Revenue: Non-interest income $77M; operating non-interest income $72M; operating PP&R $270M, up 12% sequentially and up 22% year‑over‑year.
• EPS: $0.40 GAAP EPS; $0.85 operating EPS (operating excludes merger/restructuring, fair value and hedging items).

Guidance:

• Board authorized a $700M share repurchase program spanning ~12 months; pace to be opportunistic with modest activity in the remainder of the year and ramp into 2026.
• Q4 NIM expected around ~3.90% (includes ~$12M accretion from acquired CD premium); Q1 2026 expected similar but seasonally weaker.
• Plan to organically manage down roughly $8B of transactional loans over the next ~8 quarters–2 years and remix into higher‑rate relationship loans.
• Target $127M annual cost synergies (≈$48M realized); clean expense run‑rate by Q3 2026; near‑term quarterly op expense ~ $330–$340M (ex‑CDI amortization).

Business Commentary:

• Strong Financial Performance:
• Columbia Banking System reported a second-quarter EPS of $0.40 and an operating EPS of $0.85.

• This was driven by consistent operational enhancement and a focus on profitability and balance sheet optimization.

• Balance Sheet Optimization and Loan Remixing:

• The company is targeting to manage down roughly $8 billion of inherited transactional loans, representing a significant portion of its loan portfolio.

• This strategy aims to enhance the quality of earnings and drive internal capital generation by remixing the balance sheet into relationship-based loans.

• Deposit Growth and New Customer Acquisition:

• Columbia Banking System witnessed a $800 million increase in customer deposits organically during the quarter.

• Approximately 30% of this growth was attributed to new customers, highlighting the company's success in market penetration and acquiring full banking relationships.

• Share Repurchase Authorization:

• The company announced a $700 million share repurchase program, reflecting confidence in its strong financial position and forward outlook.
• The authorization is supported by excess capital and stable regulatory capital ratios, indicating a commitment to returning capital to shareholders.

Sentiment Analysis:

Overall Tone: Positive

• Management described the quarter as characterized by "meaningful progress and growing momentum," announced a $700M buyback, reported operating ROTCE of 18.2% and operating PP&R up 12% sequentially, NIM expanded to 3.84%, and noted acquisition integration is driving revenue synergies and capital generation.

Q&A:

• Question from Chris McGrady (KBW): Can you unpack the pace of the $700M buyback and how you balance repurchases with balance‑sheet optimization?
  Response: Program runs ~12 months and will be opportunistic; modest repurchases for the remainder of the year with a ramp in 2026 — management believes the full $700M is plausible given ~$550M of excess capital and expected profitability.

• Question from David Feaster (Raymond James): Thoughts on the recent activist presentation and what drove the $800M of organic deposit growth this quarter (seasonality vs new customers vs deepening relationships)?
  Response: Management is aware of the presentation but priorities remain unchanged (consistent top‑tier performance, capital returns, integrate Pacific Premier); deposits grew ~ $800M organically with ~30% from new customers and ~ $150M from de novo branches, growth was broad‑based.

• Question from Jeff Rulas (D.A. Davidson): Given slide 25, how should we think about 2026 loan growth vs transactional runoff and the near‑term expense run rate?
  Response: Expect modest near‑term earning asset declines but NIM expansion to offset, C&I production capability ~5% annualized, and near‑term pro forma operating expenses roughly $330–$340M/quarter (ex‑CDI amortization) before deeper synergy benefits in H2 2026.

• Question from Matthew Clark (Piper Sandler): Can you provide an explicit NIM range for Q4 (and near term)?
  Response: Q4 NIM expected just north of ~3.90% (reflecting the ~$12M CD premium accretion); Q1 2026 expected in a similar range but seasonally weaker due to typical Q1 deposit flows.

• Question from Jared Shaw (Barclays): As the transactional portfolio runs down, should allowance normalize back to ~1.12%, and will merger costs be higher than initially expected?
  Response: Allowance should slowly migrate upward over time toward prior levels given portfolio shifts; merger expenses will persist over the next few quarters for system conversions with a tail after that, but total deal cost and synergy targets remain unchanged.

• Question from Timur Braziler (Wells Fargo): The PPBI balance contribution looked smaller than reported — did you accelerate outflows or sell assets at close, and was there any accelerated accretion from higher payoff activity?
  Response: Acquired loan balances came in slightly below prior pro forma after fair‑value marks; team sold portions of the acquired securities, repurchased positions that fit the portfolio, and used proceeds to reduce wholesale funding; there was minimal accelerated credit accretion.

• Question from Andrew Terrell (Stephens): The interest‑bearing deposit beta moved to ~49% — is that permanent, and do you have an earnback tolerance for buybacks relative to tangible book?
  Response: Management currently observes roughly ~50% beta and expects to lower customer rates quickly as Fed cuts occur; they view buybacks as the best use of excess capital with earnback under the original three‑year expectation (now expected to be <1 year in current conditions).

• Question from John Arstrom (RBC): How are pipelines trending and can you sustain high‑teens ROTCE?
  Response: Pipelines have strengthened across the footprint (C&I pipeline up ~$700M quarter‑over‑quarter), production momentum is broadening with new bankers contributing, and management expects to sustain or modestly exceed high‑teens ROTCE.

• Question from Anthony Ilian (J.P. Morgan): Clarify near‑term NIM and whether the $8B transactional loan bucket is the full scope of optimization.
  Response: Near‑term Q4 NIM expected ~3.90% (includes accretion); the $8B transactional bucket is the identified optimization pool to be run down and not expected to be refilled, with progress disclosed quarterly.

• Question from Janet Lee (TD Cowen): The delta between originations and payoffs was ~ $500M — should paydowns accelerate and is the bulk of optimization concentrated in 2026?
  Response: Quarter‑to‑quarter net paydowns can vary (one‑time transfers to held for sale impacted the quarter); the remix is a multi‑year process with the majority expected to work through over ~8 quarters to two years, so 2026 will see significant activity but it is not all concentrated in a single year.

• Question from David Tyaverin (Jefferies): What are current loan pricing levels and how competitive is the market?
  Response: New originations generally priced between ~6.5%–8% (weighted average low‑7% last quarter); market is competitive but Columbia will not chase price and evaluates opportunities holistically (deposits, fees, relationship value).

• Question from Chris McGrady (KBW): Can you confirm earning assets, the Q3 NIM, and the moving pieces to reconcile to Q4 and Q1 NII expectations?
  Response: Earning assets are just under $62B with Q3 NIM 3.84%; expect Q4 NIM ~3.90% (including ~$12M accretion), Q1 similar but without the accretion and with typical seasonal deposit weakness; overall NII expected stable to modestly growing as NIM expands.

Contradiction Point 1

Loan Growth Expectations

It involves differing expectations for loan growth rates, which are critical to understanding the bank's strategy and potential future performance.

What is the loan growth outlook for 2026, considering the transactional portfolio runoff? - Jeff Rulas (D.A. Davidson)

2025Q3: We can generate 5% annual loan growth while remixing our balance sheet. - Tory Nixon(Executive)

Assessing the experience from the Umpqua deal and the key takeaways for this deal? Planning for costs associated with reaching the $100 billion asset threshold? - Chris McGratty (KBW)

2025Q1: We anticipate low single-digit overall portfolio growth, with C&I growth in the low to mid-single digits. - Torran Nixon (President, Head of Retail Banking)

Contradiction Point 2

Deposit Growth Drivers

It involves differing explanations for the drivers behind deposit growth, which are crucial for understanding the bank's ability to fund its lending activities and control costs.

What factors contributed to the $800 million organic deposit growth this quarter? - David Feaster (Raymond James)

2025Q3: Deposit growth was driven by commercial and retail banking efforts, with roughly 30% from new customers. - Tory Nixon(Executive)

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2025Q2: We continue to win new relationships, offsetting some wealth management activities. Our approach is competitive and focused on new business. - Christopher M. Merrywell(President of Consumer Banking)

Contradiction Point 3

Net Interest Margin (NIM) Expectations

It involves differing expectations for net interest margins, which are critical for understanding the bank's profitability and its ability to maintain competitive pricing.

What is the expected NIM range for the next quarter? - Matthew Clark (Piper Sandler)

2025Q3: We expect net interest margin to be just north of 3.90% in Q4, with a similar range for Q1 2026. - Clint Stein(President and CEO)

What was the margin for June? - Jeff Rulis (D.A. Davidson)

2025Q2: Our best estimate at this point is a net interest margin for the quarter, 3.75%. - Ronald L. Farnsworth(Executive VP & CFO)

Contradiction Point 4

M&A Strategy and Timing

It involves inconsistencies in the company's strategy regarding M&A, specifically in relation to buybacks and the timing of future acquisitions.

Can you clarify how the announced buyback balances leveraging a low valuation with balance sheet optimization? - Chris McGrady (KBW)

2025Q3: The buyback authorization is a 12-month program, balancing the current valuation and market volatility. - Clint Stein(CEO)

Will this deal pause the buyback, or will you still consider one this year? - David Feaster (Raymond James)

2025Q1: M&A is a capital action, and this deal could delay a buyback this year. - Clint Stein(CEO)

Contradiction Point 5

Deposit Repricing Strategy

It involves the approach to repricing deposits, which directly impacts the company's funding costs and profitability.

What is the interest-bearing deposit beta and customer deposit repricing expectations? - Andrew Terrell (Stephens)

2025Q3: The interest-bearing deposit beta expectation remains roughly 50%. - Clint Stein(President and CEO)

Can you discuss opportunities to reduce wholesale funding costs despite limited Fed rate cuts? - Matthew Clark (Piper Sandler)

2024Q4: We expect a beta of 55% on rate reductions, which could be exceeded if Fed rates are cut further. - Ron Farnsworth (CFO)