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Date of Call: October 29, 2025
Q3 revenue was $623 million, essentially flat over the same period in the prior year. Adjusted diluted EPS was flat sequentially at $0.18. - Revenue growth was driven by subscription revenue growth, but offset by declines in recurring and transactional revenues. The company focused on capital allocation, including $115 million of share repurchases year-to-date and $100 million of debt pay down.1.6%, driven by 2% ACV growth in Academia & Government and Life Sciences & Health.93%, up 100 basis points year-over-year, indicating strong customer retention.The improvement in ACV and renewal rate was attributed to strategic product development and enhanced customer engagement.
AI and Product Innovation:
12 products and AI-powered capabilities across segments, aiming to drive organic growth and renewal rates.The focus on AI and product innovation is part of the company's value creation plan, enhancing competitiveness and customer retention.
IP Segment Recovery and Strategic Focus:
3% improvement in the organic growth rate compared to the full year of 2024.Overall Tone: Positive
Contradiction Point 1
IP Segment Recovery and Market Conditions
It highlights differing views on the recovery and market conditions within the IP segment, which impacts business expectations and investor confidence.
Can you clarify how your product compares to competitors like Aqua and characterize recent pressures as market vs. competitive headwinds? - Gregory Parrish (Morgan Stanley)
2025Q3: The reoccurring order type is primarily patents and trademark renewal services. The business is moving in the right direction, with a flat year-to-date performance after last year's 3% decline. The improvement is due to a better competitive position and expected market recovery. - Jonathan Collins(CFO)
What is the expected timing for the rebound in the IP and annuity market and the AI opportunities there? What is Clarivate's exposure and capabilities in China related to these opportunities? - Manav Shiv Patnaik (Barclays)
2025Q2: The IP and annuity market has been a little bit challenging in the U.S. as well as in Europe. We do expect that to start recovering, but it does take a few years for those types of changes to translate into higher renewal rates. - Jonathan M. Collins(CFO)
Contradiction Point 2
Impact of Transactional Disposals
It involves differing perspectives on the impact of transactional disposals on financial performance, which affects investor understanding of the company's financial health.
What impact are transactional revenues having on results, and what are expectations for next year’s timeline? - Colton Feldmann (Jefferies)
2025Q3: The slower roll-off of transactional disposals and weaker U.S. dollar contributed to raised guidance. - Jonathan Collins(CFO)
Why are disposals delayed, and is it due to customer service priorities or asset sales? - Adam Parrington (Shlomo Rosenbaum)
2025Q2: We had expected the run rate for disposals to be about $150 million by the end of the second quarter. It was a little bit less than that because a number of customers extended their time frame to transition to our alternative offerings. - Matitiahu Shem Tov(CEO)
Contradiction Point 3
Transition to Subscription Revenue and Incentive Model Changes
It highlights differing understandings of the company's strategy to shift from transactional to subscription revenue and the impact on sales incentives, which are vital for business model transformation and sales performance.
Can you quantify the impact of large book transactions before the company shutdown? What is the business's future potential? - Shlomo Rosenbaum (Stifel)
2025Q3: The sales team is now incentivized to focus on recurring order types, including subscriptions and patent renewals, supported by strategic business changes. - Jonathan Collins(CFO)
How have your sales force incentive model changes evolved, and how do they impact execution and success? - Andrew Nicholas (William Blair)
2024Q4: Incentive models have been tailored over years to focus on both onetime and subscription sales. We are now adjusting to incentivize subscription and reoccurring revenue growth. - Matti Shem Tov(CEO)
Contradiction Point 4
IP Segment Growth Expectations
It involves differing expectations for the IP segment's growth, which is a critical area for the company's revenue and strategic focus.
Could you quantify the impact of large book transactions before the shutdown? What is the business’s potential moving forward? - Shlomo Rosenbaum (Stifel)
2025Q3: We have strong fundamentals and potential for growth, with targets of A&A and IP at 3-4% and Life Science slightly higher. A focused strategy will return the company to market growth rates over time. - Matti Shem Tov(CEO)
What drove the higher-than-expected renewal volumes in IP? - Unidentified Analyst (Oppenheimer)
2025Q1: The primary driver for mid-single-digit growth in IP was a return to healthy underlying volumes. There were some timing items that contributed, but the main improvement came from volume recovery, which was consistent with our expectations. - Jonathan Collins(CFO)
Contradiction Point 5
Impact of Government Actions on A&A Segment
It involves differing views on the impact of government actions on the A&A segment, which could affect revenue and customer retention.
How does your product compare to competitors like Aqua in the market? How do you characterize recent pressures as market vs. competitive headwinds? - Gregory Parrish (Morgan Stanley)
2025Q3: We enjoy a collaborative relationship with customers worldwide, and we've discussed market conditions with them. Our A&A business in Q1 was unaffected by government actions, with minimal impact so far. - Matti Shem Tov(CEO)
Can you discuss the impact of funding cuts on customer advisory groups and the associated pressures? Do you anticipate further deceleration in A&A? - Greg Parrish (Morgan Stanley)
2025Q1: A majority of A&A segment revenue is with higher education institutions, and less than half is U.S.-based. Meaningful portions of U.S. revenue have already renewed, and we're confident that remaining risks are contained within the guidance range. - Jonathan Collins(CFO)
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