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Date of Call: October 27, 2025
revenue of $3.19 billion for Q3 2025, up 28% year-over-year. - The growth was driven by strong demand in the CCS segment, particularly in the communications end market.$781 million, down 4% year-over-year.ATS segment margin improved to 5.5%, supported by strategic portfolio reshaping and margin enhancement.
Strong Demand in Data Center Networking:
$2.41 billion, up 43% year-over-year.This growth was driven by strong demand in data center networking, particularly for 800G switch programs across large hyperscaler customers.
Investment in R&D and Capacity Expansion:
more than 50% for the year, focusing on product roadmaps and design engineering capabilities.Overall Tone: Positive
Contradiction Point 1
Customer Ramp Timeline and Demand Visibility
It involves differing expectations about the timing of a significant customer ramp and the visibility into future demand, which are crucial for strategic planning and investor confidence.
What is the impact of the 2027 digital native customer ramp on your outlook? - Samik Chatterjee (JPMorgan)
2025Q3: Initial silicon availability will dictate mass production timing. We expect significant revenue from this customer starting in 2027, with growth accelerating in the following years due to the magnitude of the opportunity. - Mandeep Chawla(CFO)
Given the 400G delay, when will 1.6T be available and what are your 2026 plans? - Ruben Roy (Stifel)
2025Q2: We'll start generating 1.6T revenue in the back half of 2026 and into 2027, paced by silicon availability. - Robert Andrew Mionis(CEO)
Contradiction Point 2
Demand and Growth Expectations for 800G
It highlights differing views on the pace of demand and growth for 800G, which is a critical product segment for Celestica's Connectivity and Cloud Solutions (CCS) business.
How are the other two 800G customers ramping in Q2 into Q3? - David Vogt (UBS)
2025Q3: We saw a 50-50 split between 400G and 800G volumes in Q2. 800G will ramp up faster than 400G in the back half. While one customer showed accelerated demand, the others are also ramping but at different paces. - Robert Andrew Mionis(CEO)
How many customers and platforms are driving your upward revised CCS outlook with 800-gig switch ports, and how does the breadth of design engagements for 800-gig and above compare to 400G? - Karl Ackerman (BNP Paribas Exane)
2025Q2: 400G demand has been strong, but 800G is now ramping and expected to continue. All top 3 hyperscalers have 800G programs, with one seeing significant acceleration in demand. - Mandeep Chawla(CFO)
Contradiction Point 3
Customer Contract Duration and Visibility
It involves differing statements about the duration and nature of customer contracts, which can impact revenue forecasting and strategic planning.
Can you discuss long-term customer visibility and changes in contract types? - Paul Treiber (RBC Capital Markets)
2025Q3: We have good visibility with long-term customer contracts, demonstrating strong engagement for future programs. This includes follow-on commitments even before silicon finalization. - Rob Mionis(CEO)
What is the current visibility with customers, especially in CCS, amid uncertainty? How should we interpret the re-acceleration in the second half of 2025 among enterprise clients, including existing and new customers? - David Vogt (UBS)
2025Q1: Conversations with customers validate forecasts, showing resilience in design work for future programs. - Mandeep Chawla(CFO)
Contradiction Point 4
Optical Transceiver Win and Market Position
It involves differing statements about the significance and strategic importance of an optical transceiver win, which can impact market perception and competitive positioning.
What are the growth expectations for CCS outside of hyperscalers and digital natives through 2026 and beyond? - Ruben Roy (Stifel)
2025Q3: Optical programs also contribute, but the mix of who is involved and in what way has evolved. It's a much larger pool of customers, and it's across more product types. - Mandeep Chawla(CFO)
How should we think about margins as enterprise performance improves? Can you discuss the optical transceiver win? - Ruben Roy (Stifel)
2025Q1: Optical transceiver win was a competitive bid for 800G transceivers, with significant volumes and additional optical proof points. - Rob Mionis(CEO)
Contradiction Point 5
Tariff Impact on Production Shifts
It involves differing expectations about the ability to shift production to the U.S. and Mexico in response to tariffs, which can impact operational decisions and costs.
What impact will the digital native customer growth beginning in 2027 have, and how will that affect your outlook? - Samik Chatterjee (JPMorgan)
2025Q3: With existing capacity in U.S. and Mexico, revenue can triple without additional space. Complexity of products affects shift speed, but capabilities in these regions are valuable. - Rob Mionis(CEO)
If tariffs are reintroduced, how quickly could you shift production to the U.S. and what would the CapEx costs be? - Thanos Moschopoulos (BMO Capital Markets)
2025Q1: With existing capacity in Mexico and USA, revenue can triple without additional space. Complexity of products affects the shift speed, but capabilities in these regions are valuable. - Rob Mionis(CEO)
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