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Date of Call: November 13, 2025
total revenue of $7.4 million for Q3 2025, reflecting a 21% increase compared to Q3 2024. Adjusted for a write-down, core revenues increased by 12% year-over-year. - The growth was driven by a strategic shift towards focusing on routine users, leading to increased utilization and higher consumables and software sales.
8,390 flow cells in Q3 2025, reflecting a 7% increase compared to Q3 2024. Flow cells sold to existing customers grew by 6% on a year-over-year basis.The increase was due to higher utilization from routine users who repeatedly purchased and used consumables and software at higher rates.
Non-GAAP Gross Margin Improvement:
46% for Q3 2025, a significant improvement from the 26% non-GAAP gross margin reported in Q3 2024.$9.7 million, representing a 40% year-over-year reduction from the $16.1 million in Q3 2024.The reduction was achieved through disciplined financial management and a focus on operational efficiency.
Optical Genome Mapping (OGM) Adoption and Reimbursement:
97 new publications demonstrating the value of OGM in Q3 2025, marking a 10% growth over the same period the previous year. The OGM community has published nearly 11,500 clinical research genomes to date.
Overall Tone: Positive
Contradiction Point 1
Utilization Expansion Targets
It directly impacts expectations regarding operational planning and investor expectations related to the company's utilization growth strategy.
What is the potential peak utilization level for routine use customers and how soon can it be achieved based on current trends? - Yi Chen (H.C. Wainwright)
20251114-2025 Q3: Our target is to achieve average utilization in the low-20s range across routine users. - Robert Holmlin(CEO)
What is the potential peak utilization level for routine-use customers, and how soon can they reach it based on current trends? - Yi Chen (H.C. Wainwright & Co, LLC, Research Division)
2025Q3: The goal is to reach the midpoint, which is around 20 samples per week on average across all routine users. - Robert Holmlin(CEO)
Contradiction Point 2
Operating Expense Strategy
It involves changes in financial strategy, specifically regarding operating expense management, which are critical for organizational planning and investor expectations.
Will operating expenses stay relatively stable moving forward? - Yi Chen (H.C. Wainwright)
20251114-2025 Q3: We plan to keep operating expenses flat, except where opportunities justify additional investment. - Robert Holmlin(CEO)
Do you expect operating expenses to remain stable going forward? - Yi Chen (H.C. Wainwright & Co, LLC, Research Division)
2025Q3: We intend to keep operating expenses stable, with some potential investment areas. The focus is on maintaining a flat expense structure, except where opportunities justify additional spending. - Robert Holmlin(CEO)
Contradiction Point 3
Instrument Installation and Utilization Strategy
This contradiction involves differing statements about the company's strategy regarding the installation of new instruments and the utilization of those instruments, which can impact revenue projections and market penetration.
What is the potential peak utilization level for routine users, and how soon can it be achieved given current trends? - Yi Chen (H.C. Wainwright)
20251114-2025 Q3: The average utilization is about 4 samples per week, with some users running up to 40 samples per week. Our target is to achieve average utilization in the low-20s range across routine users. - Robert Holmlin(CEO)
Are you marketing VIA to non-OGM users? - Michael Okunewitch (Maxim Group LLC)
2025Q2: It takes 6 to 9 months for labs to reach routine-use status with OGM. - Robert Erik Holmlin(President, CEO, CFO & Director)
Contradiction Point 4
Gross Margin Stability
It involves expectations for gross margin stability, which is a critical financial indicator for investors.
Will operating expenses remain stable going forward? - Yi Chen (H.C. Wainwright)
20251114-2025 Q3: We expect gross margin to remain stable in the 40% range for the remainder of the year. Continual improvements are likely, but they may be gradual due to ongoing cost structure adjustments. The current stability is seen as a positive outcome. - Erik Holmlin(CEO and Principal Financial Officer)
Is the mid-40% gross margin range sustainable for the rest of the year? Is there potential for further upside? - Sung Ji Nam (Scotiabank)
2025Q1: We expect gross margin to remain stable in the 40% range for the remainder of the year. Continual improvements are likely, but they may be gradual due to ongoing cost structure adjustments. The current stability is seen as a positive outcome. - Erik Holmlin(CEO and Principal Financial Officer)
Contradiction Point 5
Operating Expenses Stability
It involves expectations for operating expenses, which directly impact the company's financial health and cost management.
Will operating expenses remain stable going forward? - Yi Chen (H.C. Wainwright)
20251114-2025 Q3: Yes, we plan to keep operating expenses flat, except where opportunities justify additional investment. We are in the process of finalizing our detailed operating plan for next year. - Robert Holmlin(CEO)
How will the 50% revenue growth mentioned last quarter and projected instrument production by year-end impact manufacturing capacity or potential export tariffs? - Sung Ji Nam (Scotiabank)
2025Q1: The increase in operating expenses in Q3 mainly included research and development expenses related to the development of the Saphyr system and related products, and the stock-based compensation expense increase. - Erik Holmlin(CEO and Principal Financial Officer)
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