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Date of Call: November 13, 2025
revenue growth of 39% year-over-year to $9.1 million in Q3 2025.The growth was fueled by sustained momentum in the core VINIA capsules, the expanding success of the VINIA Inside product portfolio, and an increasingly significant contribution from the CDMO customer base.
CDMO Revenue Expansion:
722% year-over-year to $0.7 million.This substantial increase was driven by milestone-based project revenues and new deals, such as the partnership with Saffron Tech and the ongoing advancement of the CDMO prospective customer pipeline.
Direct-to-Consumer Product Performance:
30% compared to the previous year.The growth was attributed to the successful launch of new products like the VINIA 2X Formula Chews and the strong double-digit growth in tea and coffee businesses.
Adjusted EBITDA and Financial Health:
$0.4 million, narrowing from a loss of $1.7 million in the same year ago quarter.
Overall Tone: Positive
Contradiction Point 1
Launch Timing and Strategy for BloodFlow Hydration
It involves differing statements regarding the launch timeline and strategy for the BloodFlow Hydration product, which could impact investor expectations and market positioning.
What should we expect from the new hydration product's ramp as it launches broadly on December 3? - Matthew Hewitt(Craig-Hallum Capital Group LLC, Research Division)
2025Q3: The hydration product launch will happen in stages. Initially, it's available to existing customers, then Amazon, and gyms. The focus will be on driving customer acquisition through marketing assets. - Ilan Sobel(CEO)
How is the 2x chew launch progressing, and what is the anticipated ramp for the hydration launch? - Matthew Gregory Hewitt(Craig-Hallum Capital Group)
2025Q2: The hydration product launch is unique, focusing on blood flow hydration. It is Informed Sports certified and will launch in October, targeting athletes and institutional wellness programs. - Ilan Sobel(CEO)
Contradiction Point 2
CDMO Business Revenue Projections
It involves a contradiction in the company's expectations regarding the revenue mix between CDMO and product sales, which is critical for investor understanding of the company's growth strategy.
What percentage of total revenue will be from the CDMO business versus product revenue? - Susan Anderson (Canaccord Genuity Corp., Research Division)
2025Q3: In 5 to 7 years, the CDMO business is expected to account for 75% of revenue, with product revenue at 25%. - Ilan Sobel(CEO)
Can you update us on your CDMO contracts, especially the Tate & Lyle agreement, and how it has generated interest in additional contracts? - Anthony Vendetti (Maxim Group)
2024Q4: We believe that we can maintain these fairly high gross margins and demonstrate sustainable growth from our CDMO business, where we can generate revenue with no meaningful direct costs. - Ilan Sobel(CEO)
Contradiction Point 3
Pipeline and Deal Flow
It involves the company's pipeline of potential partners and deal flow, which are crucial for future growth and revenue expectations.
Can you discuss the interest in potential partnerships following the exosome announcement? - Nicholas Sherwood (Maxim Group LLC, Research Division)
2025Q3: The pipeline is rich with pharmaceutical, nutraceutical, and cosmetic customers interested in plant-derived life-changing compounds. The exosome opportunity is medium-term significant, currently in development work to design downstream processes. This adds value to CDMO offerings, enhancing deal closure rates and potentially impacting pricing. - Ilan Sobel(CEO)
Can you provide more details on the pharma CDMO contract entering Phase 2? - Matt Hewitt (Craig-Hallum Capital Group)
2025Q1: We are also working on new potential opportunities with a number of pharma companies. We also have the existing CDMO contracts, which we estimate in the range of $25 million to $30 million over 5 years. - Ilan Sobel(CEO)
Contradiction Point 4
HeatMap API and Strategic Focus
It involves the company's strategic focus on its HeatMap API and how it aligns with other product initiatives, impacting investor perception of the company's priorities and growth areas.
How many other existing CDMO contracts are nearing Stage 2? - Nicholas Sherwood (Maxim Group LLC, Research Division)
2025Q3: Our exclusive partnership with our partner in Israel enables us to also access the HeatMap API so that we can identify and source the best plant material for our CDMO clients. It also provides us an opportunity to develop our own internal HeatMap API, which complements our CDMO pipeline. - Ilan Sobel(CEO)
How quickly can the olive cell product scale up and what's its potential impact? - Hunter Diamond (Diamond Equity Research)
2025Q1: HeatMap is really a tool that we're using to prioritize our R&D. It doesn't actually impact our CDMO. It impacts us on the product side. - Ilan Sobel(CEO)
Contradiction Point 5
CDMO Pipeline and Deal Flow
It involves a contradiction in the company's description of the CDMO pipeline and deal flow, which is crucial for understanding the company's growth potential.
How many existing CDMO contracts are nearing Stage 2? - Nicholas Sherwood (Maxim Group LLC, Research Division)
2025Q3: Progress is being made in accessing plants for different projects. For the cosmetic fragrance space, plants are being cultured globally. Tate & Lyle is in progress with one plant, with plans to source a second. - Ilan Sobel(CEO)
Can you update us on your CDMO contracts, especially the Tate & Lyle agreement? How has it impacted interest in other contracts? - Anthony Vendetti (Maxim Group)
2024Q4: The current pipeline is intense, with multiple new contracts in the pipeline for announcement soon. - Ilan Sobel(CEO)
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