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Date of Call: November 14, 2025
Q3 2025 revenue of $1.55 million, roughly in line with the first two quarters of 2025, but down from $2.1 million in Q3 2024. - The decrease was largely due to quarter-to-quarter variability in larger customer orders, particularly from a long-time banking customer and a defense industry customer.
This growth is driven by increased defense spending and a focus on cyber resiliency, with BIO-key positioned to capitalize on these trends.
Operating Expense Reduction and Cash Liquidity:
10% through the first nine months of 2025, supporting a reduction in breakeven levels and a move towards positive cash flow and profitability.This was achieved by expanding the global reach and suite of solutions while managing costs effectively.
Focal Points for Year-End and Future Growth:

Overall Tone: Positive
Contradiction Point 1
Defense Ministry Contracts and Revenue Impact
It involves the expected impact of defense ministry contracts on company revenue, which is crucial for investor expectations.
Can you share your current ARR? - Unknown Attendee (Private Investor)
2025Q3: Our defense ministry contracts have ramped nicely. We've, again, mentioned that we're at multimillion dollars, and they still have a lot of room to grow. - Michael DePasquale(CEO)
What does meaningful contract activity in the first half of next year mean for cybersecurity in Europe? - Dan Thomas (Private Investor)
2025Q2: We have contracts that we've closed already this quarter and late last quarter and this quarter that we really just can't discuss. We provide not only an MFA, but an identity and access management platform with PortalGuard. - Michael W. DePasquale(CEO)
Contradiction Point 2
Operating Expenses and Revenue Recovery
It highlights differing expectations regarding operating expenses and revenue recovery, which are critical for assessing the company's financial health.
With the recent bank and defense wins, what is your current ARR (recurring revenue)? - Unknown Attendee (Private Investor)
2025Q3: Our ARR is growing. I would say we certainly are in the because you have to back out when you look at our total number includes hardware and software. But I think our ARR base, including renewals on our traditional contracts, right, the traditional PortalGuard business that we purchased probably are in the $6 million to $7 million range right now. - Michael DePasquale(CEO)
With increased cybersecurity and R&D costs, will the recent trend of reduced operating expenses reverse? - Dan Thomas (Private Investor)
2025Q2: No. The answer to that question is we had a blip in the second quarter due to a few things. Number one, for those events is one element. And I think we believe that the expense run rate that we started the year at from will pretty much be the way we proceed through the third and fourth quarter. So again, it was about a $300,000 blip in Q2. - Michael W. DePasquale(CEO)
Contradiction Point 3
Recurring Revenue and ARR Growth
It involves the company's recurring revenue and ARR growth, which are critical indicators for investors, and there are differences in the reported figures and growth expectations.
Given the recent bank and defense wins, what is your current ARR (Annual Recurring Revenue)? - Unknown Attendee (Private Investor)
2025Q3: Our ARR is growing. I would say we certainly are in the because you have to back out when you look at our total number includes hardware and software. But I think our ARR base, including renewals on our traditional contracts, right, the traditional PortalGuard business that we purchased probably are in the $6 million to $7 million range right now. - Michael DePasquale(CEO)
Are there any large renewals or repeat orders expected in Q2 or for the remainder of the year? - Jack Vander Aarde (Maxim Group LLC, Research Division)
2025Q1: We expect to continue sequential growth, with a strong pipeline of opportunities, including large deals. Our goal is to grow the business sequentially throughout the year. - Michael DePasquale(CEO)
Contradiction Point 4
Impact of U.S. Government Shutdown
It involves the impact of the U.S. government shutdown on the company's business operations and growth initiatives, which could affect investor expectations.
Besides the Q1 2026 renewal, are there any other major upcoming renewals or expansion opportunities expected during the year? - Jack Vander Aarde (Maxim Group LLC, Research Division)
2025Q3: Not at all. Not at all. We didn't see any impact at all. Typically, we're flying way above that in the context of security. - Michael DePasquale(CEO)
Did the recent government shutdown impact your business operations? - Jack Vander Aarde (Maxim Group LLC, Research Division)
2025Q1: Well, we couldn't access the office, so a few of these folks, and I were actually working in the basement, so we could access the network, which has been -- has been productive. We're actually getting a lot done. - Michael DePasquale(CEO)
Contradiction Point 5
Revenue Growth Expectations
It involves changing expectations regarding revenue growth, which is a critical indicator for investors.
Given the recent wins in banking and defense, can you share your current ARR and recurring revenue? - Unknown Attendee (Private Investor)
2025Q3: Our ARR is growing. I would say we certainly are in the because you have to back out when you look at our total number includes hardware and software. But I think our ARR base, including renewals on our traditional contracts, right, the traditional PortalGuard business that we purchased probably are in the $6 million to $7 million range right now. - Michael DePasquale(CEO)
What caused the change in your 2024 revenue outlook from flat or growth compared to 2023? - Jack Vander Aarde (Maxim Group)
2024Q4: Based on current expectations, we expect to finish 2024 with overall revenue either flat or with growth compared to 2023. - Michael DePasquale(CEO)
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