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Date of Call: November 14, 2025
revenue of $1.55 million in Q3 '25, roughly in line with revenue in the first two quarters of the year, but down approximately $600,000 from the previous year. - The decline was due to quarter-to-quarter variability from the timing of larger customer orders and specific deployments, such as a significant order from a defense customer that rolled over to the fourth quarter.$364,000 in Q3 '25 from $436,000 in Q3 '24.The decline was due to the timing of hardware shipments in support of ongoing customer rollouts, though it was partially offset by the sale of fully reserved inventory.
Profitability and Expense Management:
10% through the first nine months of 2025, with expenses decreasing to $2.1 million in Q3 '25 from $2.3 million in Q3 '24.This reduction was achieved while expanding global reach and solutions, indicating a focus on cost control and efficiency.
Defense and Cyber Defense Initiatives:


Overall Tone: Positive
Contradiction Point 1
Revenue Growth and Expense Management
It involves differing perspectives on revenue growth and expense management, which are crucial for understanding the company's financial health and strategic direction.
Do you have an estimate of your current ARR (recurring revenue)? - Unknown Attendee
2025Q3: Our ARR is growing. I would say we certainly are in the $6 million to $7 million range right now. - Michael DePasquale(CEO)
Will there be growth in Q3 or a slowdown before a Q4 ramp-up? - Dan Thomas (Private Investor)
2025Q2: We don't provide guidance on revenue and continue to work through the transition with our new distribution channel and the launch of new products and services. - Michael DePasquale(CEO)
Contradiction Point 2
Operating Expense Reduction
It concerns the company's commitment and progress in reducing operating expenses, which impacts profitability and financial sustainability.
Will operating expenses change going forward, and are there further cost savings expected? - Jack Vander Aarde
2025Q3: We're just trying to make good decisions on those types of things. - Cecilia Welch(CFO)
With higher cybersecurity and R&D costs, will the recent decline in operating expenses reverse? - Dan Thomas (Private Investor)
2025Q2: The increase in expenses was a one-time issue, and the company anticipates returning to the original expense run rate for the remainder of the year. - Michael W. DePasquale(CEO)
Contradiction Point 3
Expansion Opportunities and Revenue Growth
It involves differing expectations for revenue growth and expansion opportunities, which are crucial for understanding the company's growth strategy and financial performance.
Are there other major renewals in 2026 besides the large one in 1Q '26? Are there any expansion opportunities expected throughout the year? - Jack Vander Aarde (Maxim Group)
2025Q3: You're going to see renewals from, again, that large banking and finance contract that we've had, we've had for years and continues to grow and expand. - Michael DePasquale(CEO)
What are expectations for large renewals or repeat orders in Q2 and beyond? - Jack Vander Aarde (Maxim Group)
2025Q1: BIO-key expects to grow sequentially, targeting revenue growth in Q2, Q3, and Q4. Challenges may arise due to seasonal factors in Europe in Q3, but the goal remains to grow the business. - Michael DePasquale(CEO)
Contradiction Point 4
Bank of Egypt Deployment and Revenue Expectations
It involves differing expectations for the scale and timing of revenue from the Bank of Egypt project, impacting revenue forecasts and growth strategy.
Is the Bank of Egypt deal announced 10 months ago a recurring revenue deal or permanent licenses? And will you expect similar revenue from this client in 2026? - Unknown Attendee
2025Q3: The answer to that question is that was an initial deployment that we announced just about a year ago. And we are expecting an expanded deployment and that may even happen here in the fourth quarter. - Michael DePasquale(CEO)
Will revenue from the Wyoming Department of Education and National Bank of Education contribute to Q2 revenue? - Jack Vander Aarde (Maxim Group)
2025Q1: The National Bank of Egypt has ongoing opportunities for upgrades and enhancements. - Michael DePasquale(CEO)
Contradiction Point 5
ARR Growth and Expectations
It involves changes in recurring revenue growth expectations, which are crucial for understanding the company's financial health and future growth prospects.
Can you provide an update on your current ARR, specifically the recurring revenue component? - Unknown Attendee
2025Q3: Our ARR is growing. I would say we certainly are in the $6 million to $7 million range right now. - Michael DePasquale(CEO)
What caused the delay to 2025, such as longer sales cycles? Can you clarify the changes since November? - Jack Vander Aarde (Maxim Group)
2024Q4: It's going to be a challenging fiscal year for us in terms of the pure financials. I've said this even in the past earnings call. - Michael DePasquale(CEO)
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