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Date of Call: Jan 15, 2026
Strong Loan and Deposit Growth:
loan growth and strong loan fee income for 2025, along with solid organic deposit growth.Net Interest Margin (NIM) Trends:
net interest margin compression in Q4 2025, coming down from an almost all-time high.Deposit Cost Management:
cost of funds to 2.40% due to new deposit inflows post-year-end.Capital Accumulation and M&A Strategy:
Oil and Gas Revenue Impact:
$1 million, with minimal impact on overall financials.
Overall Tone: Positive
Contradiction Point 1
Loan Growth Expectations
Expectation for 2026 loan growth contradicts previous high single-digit target.
Will growth reach 25% again next year, or is that unrealistic? - Wood Lay (Keefe, Bruyette, & Woods, Inc.)
2025Q4: Reiterating that 2025-level growth would be a stretch. Pricing pressure is the main constraint... - [Jason Estes](Executive VP & Chief Credit Officer)
What is the current loan pipeline status and growth outlook for Q4 and 2026? - Adam Kroll (Piper Sandler & Co.)
2025Q3: The target is high single-digit year-over-year loan growth, which is expected to be achievable. - [Jason Estes](Executive VP & Chief Credit Officer)
Contradiction Point 2
M&A Strategy & Challenges
M&A focus shifts from active engagement to being disciplined and waiting for the right fit.
Are these still the major challenges you're facing? - Jordan Ghent (Stephens Inc.)
2025Q4: The bank has had several opportunities... but has remained disciplined, prioritizing asset quality. - [Thomas Travis](CEO)
What's the M&A activity update in the market? - Adam Kroll (Piper Sandler & Co.)
2025Q3: The company is actively engaging in M&A discussions and has looked at various transactions over the past few months. - [Thomas Travis](CEO)
Contradiction Point 3
Net Interest Margin (NIM) Outlook
Contradiction on the direction and drivers of NIM movement.
How do you expect the net interest margin to trend with a few more rate cuts? - Wood Lay (Keefe, Bruyette, & Woods, Inc., Research Division)
2025Q4: NIM compression in Q4 was expected after reaching an all-time high. With recent rate cuts... The forward-looking NIM is viewed positively, with potential slight decline... - [Kelly Harris](Executive VP & CFO), [Thomas Travis](President, CEO & Vice Chairman)
What's the outlook for NIM considering growth and potential deposit cost increases? - Wood Neblett Lay (Keefe, Bruyette, & Woods, Inc.)
2025Q2: Slight NIM degradation is expected but will remain within historical ranges. Efforts are ongoing to offset higher-cost deposits with transaction accounts. - [Jason Estes](Executive VP & Chief Credit Officer)
Contradiction Point 4
Deposit Cost Behavior and Leverage
Contradiction on the responsiveness of deposit costs to market rates.
What deposit pricing competition are you observing? - Nathan Race (Piper Sandler & Co., Research Division)
2025Q4: Recent rate cuts did not translate into typical deposit betas as strongly as earlier cuts, a trend seen across the industry. - [Jason Estes](Executive VP & Chief Credit Officer)
How sensitive are earnings to potential Fed funds cuts? - Nathan James Race (Piper Sandler & Co.)
2025Q2: The first few rate cuts had a 1:1 loan/deposit beta. More of the same is anticipated... - [Kelly Harris](Executive VP & CFO), [Thomas Travis](President, CEO & Vice Chairman)
Contradiction Point 5
Trajectory for Oil & Gas Revenue and Expenses
Contradiction on the near-term trend and recovery pace of the oil & gas segment.
Can you clarify the expense and fee guidance and the number of cores impacted by oil and gas revenues? - Jordan Ghent (Stephens Inc.)
2025Q4: ...Oil & gas revenue is a 'nothing burger' or rounding error, expected to decline gradually over the next 3-4 years with minimal GAAP impact. - [Thomas Travis](CEO), [Kelly Harris](EVP & CFO)
How will oil and gas revenue and expenses evolve? - Nathan Race (Piper Sandler)
2025Q1: Q1's run rate is expected to be representative of future quarters. The company is on pace to fully recover its $16 million investment in the oil & gas asset over the next 12 months. - [Kelly Harris](EVP & CFO)
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