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Date of Call: November 6, 2025
total revenues of $956 million for Q3 2025, up 100% year-over-year and 46% sequentially. - The growth was driven by the integration of Prospect Health and organic growth across the core business.
adjusted EBITDA of $68.5 million, up 52% year-over-year and 42% sequentially.This was attributed to stable medical cost trends across both legacy Astrana and Prospect operations.
Strategic Partnerships and Market Expansion:
The partnership combines Intermountain's clinical infrastructure with Astrana's value-based care delivery model.
Guidance Adjustments and Transition Timing:
$3.1 billion to $3.18 billion and adjusted EBITDA to $200 million to $210 million.Overall Tone: Positive
Contradiction Point 1
Medicaid Cost Trends and Expectations
It involves differing expectations and explanations regarding Medicaid cost trends, which are critical for understanding the company's financial outlook and risk management strategies.
When do you expect Medicaid cost trends to stabilize? What does the new partnership in Southern California entail? - Matthew Mardula(William Blair & Company L.L.C., Research Division)
2025Q3: Medicaid cost trends are expected to stabilize by late 2026. - Brandon Sim(CEO)
What caused the Q2 revenue guidance to fall below expectations, and what interest rate assumptions are included in the 2027 guidance? - Michael Ha(Baird)
2025Q1: Comfortable with trend and adjusted EBITDA guidance. Encouraged by 2026 rate notice; confident in 2025 and 2027 guidance. Rate increase favorable to assumptions but not quantified. - Brandon Sim(CEO)
Contradiction Point 2
Prospect Health Acquisition and Integration
It involves varying statements about the Prospect Health acquisition and integration, which is a significant strategic move with potential impacts on the company's financial performance and growth trajectory.
When do you expect Medicaid cost trends to stabilize? And what does the new partnership in Southern California entail? - Matthew Mardula(William Blair & Company L.L.C., Research Division)
2025Q3: The new partnership is with a similar payer mix (Medicare, Medicaid, commercial) and will be onboarded in the first half of 2026. These are shared risk members, managed like the rest. - Brandon Sim(CEO)
Can you assure the earnings potential of the Prospect acquisition? - David Larsen(BTIG, LLC, Research Division)
2025Q1: Prospect's financials align with expectations above $81 million EBITDA. Insights from claims and prior auth suggest solid earnings power. - Brandon Sim(CEO)
Contradiction Point 3
Medicaid Cost Trends and Reimbursement Expectations
It pertains to the company's expectations regarding Medicaid cost trends and reimbursement, which significantly impact financial projections and strategic planning.
When will Medicaid cost trends stabilize? What does the new Southern California partnership entail? - Matthew Mardula (William Blair & Company L.L.C., Research Division)
2025Q3: Medicaid cost trends are expected to stabilize by late 2026. - Brandon Sim(CEO)
How might Medicaid reimbursement cuts affect your business? - Jailendra Singh (Truist Securities)
2024Q4: We believe our California-based Medicaid business has some insulation from federal funding. We're not assuming any reimbursement increases in 2025 guidance. - Brandon Sim(CEO)
Contradiction Point 4
Exchange Membership and Impact
It highlights differing perspectives on the impact of Exchange changes on utilization and revenue, which are important for understanding potential financial risks and opportunities.
What was the Q3 medical trend, and how does it compare to expectations? Any exchanges exposure? - David Larsen (BTIG, LLC, Research Division)
2025Q3: Exchange membership is around 3% of revenue, manageable at present. - Brandon Sim(CEO)
Are you expecting a surge in utilization in the second half due to Exchange changes? - Jailendra P. Singh (Truist Securities)
2025Q2: We're being conservative about the impact of Exchange changes. While it's possible that there will be some utilization rush, it's a small part of our revenue, so manageable. - Brandon Sim(CEO)
Contradiction Point 5
EBITDA Impact of Contract Delays
It focuses on the company's accounting for contract delays and their impact on financial forecasts, particularly EBITDA.
Can you clarify the EBITDA and revenue guidance changes due to contract delays? - Ryan Langston (TD Cowen, Research Division)
2025Q3: The adjusted EBITDA reduction is due to timing delays and is not related to cost or trend issues. - Brandon Sim(CEO)
Given the higher-than-expected Medicaid trend, will there be a significant benefit in 2025? How will this impact EBITDA? - Michael Ha (Baird)
2024Q4: On the macro side, it will be a little bit of a headwind for the upcoming year as a result of this particular legislation not giving you the relief that you're looking for. - Brandon Sim(CEO)
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