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revenue increased 15% year-over-year, excluding Sun Art and Intime.Cloud Intelligence revenue rose 34%, with external customer revenue accelerating by 29%, driven by sustained demand for AI and public cloud services.AI-related products continued to post triple-digit year-over-year growth for the 9th consecutive quarter, contributing to the strong performance.
Quick Commerce and E-commerce Synergy:
60%, contributing to the overall e-commerce growth.50% reduction in per-order loss since July-August, supported by higher average order value and better user retention.The integration of quick commerce with broader Alibaba ecosystem, such as Taobao and Tmall, drove increased user engagement and transaction volumes.
AI Infrastructure Investment:
Supply chain constraints are expected to persist, making AI resources undersupplied relative to demand for the next 2-3 years.
Strong User Engagement in Amap:
360 million, with the Street Stars feature averaging over 70 million daily active users.
Overall Tone: Positive
Contradiction Point 1
Capital Expenditure (CapEx) Scale and Strategic Commitment
There is a direct and significant contradiction regarding the magnitude and certainty of Alibaba's planned AI/cloud infrastructure investment. One statement suggests the previously communicated 3-year target is insufficient, while another presents it as a firm plan exceeding all past investment. This represents a major shift in capital strategy and growth signaling.
How should we assess CapEx over the next three years, considering the previously mentioned $380 billion and $120 billion already spent? What is the relationship between CapEx and incremental revenue? - Ronald Keung (Goldman Sachs)
20251125-2026 Q2: The $380 billion CapEx figure for a 3-year period may be on the small side given current customer demand... Aggressive investment in AI infrastructure will continue; further scaling up is possible if needed. - Unknown Executive
How will Alibaba's cloud and AI models drive revenue and margin growth? Can you clarify the comment about AI infrastructure investment over the next three years exceeding the past decade? How will capital expenditures impact profitability? - Alicia Yap (Citigroup)
2025Q3: The planned investment in cloud and AI infrastructure over the next three years will exceed that of the past decade. - Eddie Wu(CEO)
Contradiction Point 2
Quick Commerce Investment Timeline and Profitability Synergy
This contradiction involves conflicting signals on the investment horizon and expected financial impact of the quick commerce business. One statement indicates a peak and imminent scaling back, while another describes it as an ongoing, long-term investment period not yet profitable. This creates uncertainty about the timing of returns and near-term EBITDA pressure.
What progress has management made in quick commerce and its synergy with core e-commerce? How will the synergy impact Q4 core e-commerce CMR and EBITDA guidance? - Kenneth Fong (UBS)
20251125-2026 Q2: Investment in quick commerce will be highest in the September quarter, with a significant scaling down expected by next quarter as efficiency improves. - Toby Xu(CFO)
What are Alibaba's plans, rationale, and expected impact on local service group profitability from the RMB10 billion Ele.me instant commerce investment amid intensified food delivery competition? - Kenneth Fong (UBS)
2025Q4: This is an investment period that will impact EBITDA... New investments in instant commerce will also affect EBITDA, but they are seen as replacing some original market growth investments. - Jiang Fan(CEO)
Contradiction Point 3
CMR (Commissions and Revenue) Growth Outlook
This is a clear contradiction in financial forecasting regarding a core business segment's near-term growth trajectory. One statement projects continued rapid growth, while the other explicitly forecasts a slowdown. This directly impacts revenue expectations for the company's primary commerce business.
What is the investment plan and pace for commerce/consumption beyond quick commerce, including supply chain and user growth? How will declining software service fee and QZT penetration, along with quick commerce traffic/GMV, impact CMR growth? - Kenneth Fong (Bank of America)
2026Q1: Therefore, rapid CMR growth is expected to continue in the coming quarters. - Hong Xu(CFO)
Has management provided an update on quick commerce progress and synergy with core e-commerce? What is the outlook for December quarter CMR and EBITDA from core e-commerce? - Kenneth Fong (UBS)
20251125-2026 Q2: CMR growth may slow next quarter due to base effects from payment processing fees and QCT rollout. - Toby Xu(CFO)
Contradiction Point 4
Quick Commerce Profitability Timeline
This contradiction centers on the expected path to profitability for a major strategic investment. One statement emphasizes it is a long-term investment that is not yet profitable, while another highlights strategic progress and synergy benefits, suggesting a more imminent or different path to value capture. This affects assessment of the investment's risk and return profile.
How should we assess the ROIC of the ~RMB 50 billion quick commerce investments compared to AI/cloud investments with a larger TAM and faster growth? How is capital allocated between retail and AI? - Gary Yu (Morgan Stanley)
2026Q1: While quick commerce investments are not yet profitable, they are driving increased traffic and user engagement on the Taobao app, which in turn benefits advertising and CMR. The company is focused on long-term returns and is confident in its resource position. - Hong Xu(CFO)
Can management highlight key progress in quick commerce and its synergy with core e-commerce? What is the outlook for Q4 CMR and EBITDA in core e-commerce? - Kenneth Fong (UBS)
20251125-2026 Q2: Quick commerce is a core strategic pillar for driving platform upgrades and generating RMB 1 trillion in GMV within 3 years. - Fan Jiang(CEO)
Contradiction Point 5
Strategic Focus on Non-Core Asset Divestment
This represents a shift in strategic communication regarding portfolio management. One statement explicitly discusses exploring options to divest or seek investors for a specific non-core asset (Freshippo), while another emphasizes a strategy of integration and synergy across a broad set of consumption assets. This indicates an evolving stance on capital allocation and business focus.
Are there plans to sell other assets like Freshippo and Illuma? Is there a monetization model for the Qwen model besides computing? Will the Chinese AI market remain homogeneous with many models? - Jialong Shi (Nomura)
2025Q3: Alibaba has a broad portfolio in consumption: **fresh food, offline O2O, Fliggy (travel), Amap, and local services**. **Current focus is on integrating and driving synergies across these existing businesses** to increase overall market share in the consumption sector. - Fan Jiang(CEO)
Which consumption market subsectors do you view as good investment opportunities for scaling up? - Jialong Shi (Nomura)
20251125-2026 Q2: The strategy of exiting non-core assets continues... **Freshippo is not for sale**, but options like introducing a strategic investor are being explored to better reflect its value in Alibaba's valuation. - Toby Xu(CFO)
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