RH's Q2 2025: Contradictions Emerge on Real Estate Monetization, Inventory Strategy, Member Discounts, Tariffs, and European Expansion
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jueves, 11 de septiembre de 2025, 11:28 pm ET3 min de lectura
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The above is the analysis of the conflicting points in this earnings call
Date of Call: September 11, 2025
Financials Results
- Revenue: Q2 FY2025 revenue increased 8.4% YOY; demand up 13.7% YOY (2-year revenue +12%, demand +21%)
- Operating Margin: Adjusted operating margin 15.1%, up 340 bps YOY (adjusted EBITDA margin 20.6%, up 340 bps YOY)
Guidance:
- FY2025: Revenue growth 9%-11%; adjusted operating margin 13%-14%; adjusted EBITDA margin 19%-20%; FCF $250M-$300M.
- Includes ~-200 bps operating margin drag from international start-up and ~90 bps tariff impact; ~$30M H2 tariff cost net of mitigation.
- Fall Interiors Sourcebook delayed ~8 weeks; ~$40M revenue shifts from Q3 to Q4 and Q1’26.
- Q3 FY2025: Revenue growth 8%-10%; adjusted operating margin 12%-13%; adjusted EBITDA margin 18%-19%.
- Q3 includes ~-270 bps operating margin drag (international/RH Paris) and ~120 bps tariff impact.
- Outlook excludes any new tariffs from the furniture investigation.
Business Commentary:
- Revenue and Demand Growth:
- RH reported a
revenueincrease of8.4%in the second quarter of fiscal 2025, with demand increasing by13.7%. This growth was driven by strong demand despite the polarizing impact of tariff uncertainty and the worst housing market in almost 50 years.
Operating and EBITDA Margin Improvement:
- The adjusted operating margin increased to
15.1%and adjusted EBITDA margin to20.6%, both up340 basis pointscompared to last year. This improvement was due to effective management of long-term European expansion investments and cost mitigation.
European Market Expansion:
- RH's European expansion in England showed demand trends with gallery demand up
76%and online demand up34%in the second quarter. The opening of RHRH-- Paris, a significant brand-building initiative, is expected to create a higher scale to support advertising investments and accelerate growth in Europe.
Tariff Impact and Mitigation:
- The company expects a
$30 millioncost of incremental tariffs net of mitigation in the second half of the year. - Mitigation efforts include negotiating with manufacturing partners, shifting sourcing out of China, and resourcing production to the United States and other countries to alleviate tariff impacts.
Sentiment Analysis:
- Management cited strong Q2 performance: “revenue increased 8.4%… demand increased 13.7%… adjusted operating margin of 15.1%… net income increased 79%.” But they revised FY2025 outlook due to tariffs and delays: “updated outlook reflects a $30 million cost of incremental tariffs… delayed the Fall Interiors Sourcebook… ~$40 million in revenues to shift out of Q3.” They warned of “big furniture inflation in the second half” and ongoing start-up cost drag from Europe.
Q&A:
- Question from Simeon Gutman (Morgan Stanley): With improving free cash flow, do you still need to monetize real estate?
Response: No; monetization would be opportunistic. RH is not a long-term real estate owner and will sell when conditions are favorable; ample assets (~$500M equity value) provide flexibility.
- Question from Simeon Gutman (Morgan Stanley): Is RH on the cusp of a growth period as investments peak?
Response: Core business is ready with post-peak investments, but macro risks (inflation, tariffs, rates) warrant caution; priority is taming inflation over rate cuts.
- Question from Steven Forbes (Guggenheim): How much room remains to reduce inventory and any risk to the spring brand extension launch?
Response: Brand extension for spring 2026 is on track barring extreme new tariffs; inventory turns can improve toward historical ~3x with $200–$300M reduction potential.
- Question from Steven Forbes (Guggenheim): Will three galleries open with the new brand extension in spring?
Response: Yes—Greenwich and San Francisco confirmed; West Hollywood depends on permits, with a phased plan including a future restaurant.
- Question from Maksim Rakhlenko (TD Cowen): How to size European gallery revenue and four-wall economics vs. U.S.?
Response: Paris is off to a strong start; London and Milan expected to be larger. Over time, four-wall margins should resemble U.S., though near-term start-up costs weigh.
- Question from Maksim Rakhlenko (TD Cowen): What drove gross margin improvement and how to think about promotions vs. tariffs?
Response: Gross margin improved YOY by lapping prior markdowns; H2 gross margin faces tariff headwinds—pricing/mitigation helps but cannot fully offset.
- Question from Michael Lasser (UBS): Is discounting driving incremental sales and will you pull back as housing improves?
Response: At luxury furniture levels, the industry structurally discounts (e.g., designer pricing); RH’s membership model competes effectively, and promotions are necessary in this housing downturn.
- Question from Michael Lasser (UBS): What underpins back-half operating margin guidance?
Response: Seasonality (catalog/advertising expense timing) and embedded pricing/mitigation drive phasing; specifics by quarter not disclosed.
- Question from Steven Zaccone (Citi): How will tariffs affect industry pricing timing and magnitude?
Response: Expect broad furniture inflation in H2 2025; most players must raise prices, including U.S. assemblers impacted by imported parts/fabrics; pressures may persist into 2026.
- Question from Steven Zaccone (Citi): Will the ~200 bps international drag ease next year?
Response: Not immediately; London and Milan will carry heavy start-up costs, with improvement dependent on Paris ramp.
- Question from Brian Nagel (Oppenheimer): Can tighter inventory become a sales headwind?
Response: There are trade-offs, but new concepts, major gallery openings (e.g., London/Milan), and potential partnerships/licensing should support growth.
- Question from Brian Nagel (Oppenheimer): Are pricing actions synchronized with tariff impacts?
Response: A mix—RH adjusts prices judiciously and uses its established tariff playbook and membership levers, balancing margin protection with demand.
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