The 401k has traditional ira and roth money in same amo
3/16/2026 02:14pm
Think of your setup as **one 401k plan with two “tax buckets”**, not two different account types:
- **Traditional 401k dollars** (pre‑tax)
- **Roth 401k dollars** (after‑tax)
They live in the **same 401k system**, but are tracked separately for taxes. The *investment menu* is usually the same for both.
Your **15k Roth IRA** is a totally separate account from the 401k and already fully self‑directed, which is why you can buy anything there.
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## 1. How investments work when you have traditional + Roth in one 401k
Inside your Fidelity 401k (traditional + Roth):
- The plan usually lets you pick **funds for the whole account** (e.g., 60% FXAIX, 20% FSKAX, 20% FSPSX).
- Those choices are applied **proportionally** to:
- Your traditional 401k balance
- Your Roth 401k balance
- Employer match, etc.
So when we think:
> “204k in FSPSX/FXAIX/FSKAX and 25k in SMH/SCHG/VRT”
…that’s **229k total inside the same 401k plan**, regardless of how much of that is traditional vs Roth. The split only matters later for **how withdrawals are taxed**, not for what you *can* invest in.
Where it *does* matter is **what the plan allows you to buy**:
- Core menu (mutual funds like FSPSX/FXAIX/FSKAX) → available to all sources.
- ETFs/stocks (SMH/SCHG/VRT) → only available **if** your 401k offers a **BrokerageLink/self‑directed brokerage window**.
The rule is the same whether the dollars are traditional or Roth 401k.
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## 2. You **do not** need a “self‑directed 401k” for the core funds
Once you fire Fidelity managed:
- Your **401k** automatically becomes a **self‑directed account within the plan menu**.
- You can log in and buy:
- **FSPSX**
- **FXAIX**
- **FSKAX**
directly for the **full 229k**, split however you want.
No new account type is needed for that.
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## 3. Where the 25k SMH/SCHG/VRT sleeve fits
This is the part that depends on your plan features:
### Case A – Your 401k *does* have BrokerageLink (or similar)
Then you can:
1. **Turn off management** on the 401k.
2. Inside the 401k:
- Invest ~**204k** in FSPSX/FXAIX/FSKAX.
- Open **BrokerageLink** and move **25k** into it.
3. Inside that **BrokerageLink sub‑account (still part of the 401k)**:
- Buy **SCHG**, **SMH**, **VRT** with that 25k.
All of this stays inside the 401k **tax‑shelter**. It doesn’t matter whether the dollars came from traditional or Roth source; BrokerageLink will usually show one combined market value, while recordkeeping tracks the tax source behind the scenes.
### Case B – Your 401k *does not* have BrokerageLink
Then inside the **401k** you are limited to:
- FSPSX / FXAIX / FSKAX / target‑date funds / etc.
- You **cannot** hold SMH/SCHG/VRT in the 401k at all.
In that scenario, your options are:
- Use the **401k 100% for core** (FSPSX/FXAIX/FSKAX).
- Use your **Roth IRA (15k)** and any **taxable account** (or later Roth rollovers) as the home for:
- SMH / SCHG / VRT
- Plus your AI names (ANET, NVDA, ALAB, etc.)
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## 4. Where I’d put things given what you’ve told me
Pending whether BrokerageLink exists:
### 401k (traditional + Roth sources combined → 229k)
- Turn off managed.
- Rebuild core broadly like:
- **FSKAX** 40%
- **FXAIX** 35%
- **FSPSX** 25%
If BrokerageLink **exists**, pull **25k** out of that mix into BrokerageLink and buy:
- **SCHG** ~40% of 25k
- **SMH** ~35% of 25k
- **VRT** ~25% of 25k
If BrokerageLink **doesn’t** exist, hold **only core** inside the 401k and put SMH/SCHG/VRT in Roth IRA/taxable instead.
### Roth IRA (15k, already self‑directed)
Keep using this as your **AI + infra + materials + defense** high‑conviction sleeve with:
- ANET, NVDA, MU, ALAB
- SPMO, DLR, SETM, FCX, IDEF
- (PLTR small if you want)
This Roth IRA is also where you can **definitely** buy SCHG/SMH/VRT, regardless of what the 401k allows.
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## 5. The key question to answer now
The fact that your 401k has both traditional and Roth dollars **in the same system** is normal and not a problem. The real deciding factor is:
> **When you log into your 401k at Fidelity (NetBenefits), do you see anything called “BrokerageLink” or “self‑directed brokerage account” in the investment options?**
- If **yes**, we’ll put the 25k SMH/SCHG/VRT sleeve **inside the 401k** via that.
- If **no**, we’ll keep the 401k as a pure **FSPSX/FXAIX/FSKAX core engine** and run your growth sleeve in Roth IRA (and, if needed, taxable).
When you get a chance, can you check your online 401k dashboard for “BrokerageLink” and tell me what you see? That one detail will lock in exactly where we place the 25k growth sleeve.